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post #9196 of 14201
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Originally Posted by Vickt View Post

Well, he said he'd go higher if he was blown away by something. No clue what that entails but I think an extra $2k over budget is worth it. $31k is kinda crazy for a GTI... at that point I'd just get the R.

There are a TON of other cars I'd rather get in the $31k range before thinking about the GTI...jeez. I'm throwing in pre-owned cars too.
Edited by whiteslashasian - 4/2/13 at 1:02pm
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This CLA is going to sell like hotcakes

post #9198 of 14201
want to see it in person first. there's a good chance it ends up being a cheap ass "luxury car" like the C230 or the 318ti and only appeals to the people who just want to say they drive a Mercedes
post #9199 of 14201
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want to see it in person first. there's a good chance it ends up being a cheap ass "luxury car" like the C230 or the 318ti and only appeals to the people who just want to say they drive a Mercedes

Ruining the brand.

31k I would get a Toyota FJ. Solid, dependable SUV .
post #9200 of 14201
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

want to see it in person first. there's a good chance it ends up being a cheap ass "luxury car" like the C230 or the 318ti and only appeals to the people who just want to say they drive a Mercedes

What are they pricing it at?

Decent looking car, IMO.

The A class already ruined the brand, not to mention the Daimler Chrysler years.
post #9201 of 14201
I think it's going to be a bigger hit in Europe. We have a much stronger culture for small cars, and the CLA is pretty decently priced. The new A-class will probably also be a huge success, mostly because of its looks.
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Thanks for all the suggestions! I hadn't really thought about the Altima, as some family members of mine had bought one a few years back and I wasn't impressed. Did a little digging and it turns out they redesigned it last year, and it's getting rave reviews, and it would fit in the budget. I'm not a huge fan of VW's. I guess I just don't get what the big deal is. I had a Jetta as a rental a couple years back and it reminded me of a Ford Taurus. Just...bleh. Maybe they've redesigned them too?

post #9203 of 14201

I'd love for the US to get the Mercedes B-class.  I fell in love on a recent trip to Europe and would buy one if they ever came this side of the pond.

post #9204 of 14201
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Originally Posted by upthewazzu View Post

Thanks for all the suggestions! I hadn't really thought about the Altima, as some family members of mine had bought one a few years back and I wasn't impressed. Did a little digging and it turns out they redesigned it last year, and it's getting rave reviews, and it would fit in the budget. I'm not a huge fan of VW's. I guess I just don't get what the big deal is. I had a Jetta as a rental a couple years back and it reminded me of a Ford Taurus. Just...bleh. Maybe they've redesigned them too?

The current Jetta/Passat redesigns are now more mundane looking- but also significantly less expensive.
post #9205 of 14201
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want to see it in person first. there's a good chance it ends up being a cheap ass "luxury car" like the C230 or the 318ti and only appeals to the people who just want to say they drive a Mercedes

 

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Ruining the brand.

31k I would get a Toyota FJ. Solid, dependable SUV .

 

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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post


What are they pricing it at?

Decent looking car, IMO.

The A class already ruined the brand, not to mention the Daimler Chrysler years.

 

 

I never understood that "ruining the brand" comment.  Mercedes makes a variety of vehicles from big azz haulers, buses, dump trucks taxis, and even lorries but y'all are alleging that a $30,000 (and that is a stripper car) car somehow ruins the brand?  That is akin to saying a 3 series "ruins" BMW's reputation or an A4 is not a real Audi.  Last time I checked the C class price overlap with the E class was about the same as the 3 series and 5 series overlap: significant.  (sidenote: I also think MB fucked up by not offering the W204 C350 in a stick shift like they did with the W203 C350)

 

 

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Originally Posted by henrikc View Post

I think it's going to be a bigger hit in Europe. We have a much stronger culture for small cars, and the CLA is pretty decently priced. The new A-class will probably also be a huge success, mostly because of its looks.

 

Smaller cars are becoming more and more popular in metropolitan areas in the US.  This is a phenomenon that I never would have predicted.

post #9206 of 14201
While I agree "ruining the brand" is too strong - within the US Mercedes has a far-narrower definition. We don't have the widespread use of a-segments, utilitarian etc... the TV ads to this day still portray Mercedes as the expensive muscle car of the expensive cars... breaking chains, paint pealing, smoking tires.

Both their and BMW's old tries at cheaper entry level were failures and they did harm with the luxe images that had been crafted here in the past.
Keep in mind, threaks like this, however, are mostly fanbois and they're going to scream more than most. Folks interested in improved coilovers don't generally like being associated with hybrid-electric wind-up toys from Merc.
post #9207 of 14201
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

I never understood that "ruining the brand" comment.  Mercedes makes a variety of vehicles from big azz haulers, buses, dump trucks taxis, and even lorries but y'all are alleging that a $30,000 (and that is a stripper car) car somehow ruins the brand?  That is akin to saying a 3 series "ruins" BMW's reputation or an A4 is not a real Audi.  Last time I checked the C class price overlap with the E class was about the same as the 3 series and 5 series overlap: significant.  (sidenote: I also think MB fucked up by not offering the W204 C350 in a stick shift like they did with the W203 C350)

Let me rephrase then: ruins what I want out of the brand. I want an experience commiserate with what I pay to drive my GL. This means I do not want to be around the average person that drives a 30-35k "luxury" car. Horrible on my part? Sure. What I want for my $$? Yup. I do not look at Touaregs, even though by all metrics they seem to be a fine SUV, because I do not want to hang out with several classes of VW drivers. I'm old and grouchy, in a rush during my business day, and just want to get in and out.
post #9208 of 14201
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Let me rephrase then: ruins what I want out of the brand. I want an experience commiserate with what I pay to drive my GL. This means I do not want to be around the average person that drives a 30-35k "luxury" car. Horrible on my part? Sure. What I want for my $$? Yup. I do not look at Touaregs, even though by all metrics they seem to be a fine SUV, because I do not want to hang out with several classes of VW drivers. I'm old and grouchy, in a rush during my business day, and just want to get in and out.

Unless you are simply talking about the experience when taking the car to the dealer for work, how often do you really have to fraternize with people who buy the same brand of vehicle as you?
post #9209 of 14201
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Originally Posted by henrikc View Post

I think it's going to be a bigger hit in Europe. We have a much stronger culture for small cars, and the CLA is pretty decently priced. The new A-class will probably also be a huge success, mostly because of its looks.
yes, my comment was more for the US market. as Cary says, MB is a very aspirational brand over here....so obviously if this thing is not up to their standard they will erode that brand status. they are already heavily marketing the CLA over here so clearly they intend big things for it here. i'm keeping an open mind (and making a beeline for the AMG once it comes out)
post #9210 of 14201
also - signed up for the Audi Driving Experience.

a complimentary event where i get to flog R8, TTRS, R5, S8, S6, S4 around PBIR for four hours??

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