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Just the fact a used 3-series is constantly referred to as an "E46 ZHP" tells me the personal investment is overly high.
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Piob, you sorely disappoint. What's the fixation with the fact that it's used?

Are you one of those people who are too proud to buy a used car and look down on those who buy used because it makes more financial sense to them?

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And username, that's fine man. Your opinion. I personally love my car. My opinion.
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To GFs defense, I do like the exterior of the Grand Cherokee, they've gotten better and better looking in the past few years, but I doubt the fit & finish is near par with the RR. 

Yes, thank you! I particularly like the current generation of GC. The interior will definitely not be on par since we're comparing two cars that cater to two completely segments.

The SRT 8's interior is more luxurious but I won't argue that it's nicer than the range's.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Piob, you sorely disappoint. What's the fixation with the fact that it's used?

Are you one of those people who are too proud to buy a used car and look down on those who buy used because it makes more financial sense to them?

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And username, that's fine man. Your opinion. I personally love my car. My opinion.

Is it not used? I mean, you who have to so accurately describe it as "E46 ZHP" are asking why I accurately describe it as "used?" As to your accusation that's rather funny. Son, where I grew up, no one but rich people had a new car. And when I say "new car" I'm talking a Chrysler sedan.

But your "personally love" your car yet deny my statement that you have reached irrational levels of feelings towards this vehicle? You plan to keep it forever? rolleyes.gif
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I love bimmers but ZHP is just a 330 with an M aero package/wheels/steering wheel and 10 more hp.  Username79 is correct when he states that zhp prices are artificially high.  The amount of pricing overlap with used E46 M3s is astounding.  As Rick James memorably quipped "Cocaine is a hellova drug"

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ZHP has hotter cams, different software, different springs and dampers, along with different interior and exterior cosmetics. 10 HP on paper doesn't sound like much but the car drives more differently than its specs would suggest. I remember when they first came out and someone brought a very new one to the racetrack. We all thought it wouldn't be a big deal, because of its modest specs, but it was a very impressive car, almost a good substitute for not having a 4-door E46 M3.

It's a cult car, but fully deserving of its reputation. And it's great when people keep and take care of their cars. The environmental cost of manufacturing new cars is something most people don't consider when they buy a hybrid or some other high MPG car in order to be more environmentally friendly.

As for overpriced, who cares? If someone's willing to pay the price, then it doesn't really matter.
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We get it GF, you like your ZHP. I don't think you need to extol its countless virtues every few weeks.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Is it not used? I mean, you who have to so accurately describe it as "E46 ZHP" are asking why I accurately describe it as "used?" As to your accusation that's rather funny. Son, where I grew up, no one but rich people had a new car. And when I say "new car" I'm talking a Chrysler sedan.

But your "personally love" your car yet deny my statement that you have reached irrational levels of feelings towards this vehicle? You plan to keep it forever? rolleyes.gif
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Gort wins the Netwebs today.

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The full vid if you can endure it. Awkward

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xut9qr_my-strange-addiction-dating-my-car_people#.US5P9OuFS18
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My identical twin brother is breaking my BMW balls over how good his 2013 MB GLK 350 is. Should he be so happy?

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My identical twin brother is breaking my BMW balls over how good his 2013 MB GLK 350 is. Should he be so happy?

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Too small for me. Although, for 2013, it has a new engine, new interior, etc. If you're going to make the move to an MB SUV get the GL.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Just the fact a used 3-series is constantly referred to as an "E46 ZHP" tells me the personal investment is overly high.

Err... what else would I call it? Do you refer to your GLK (or whatever MB SUV you drive) as Newly Leased 2013 Mercedes Benz GLK? Like.. what? What are you getting at here? Personal investment is too high because I call it what it is? Maybe I refer to it using the 'technical' term in a 'Cars we drive' thread because this is a thread for car guys?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Is it not used? I mean, you who have to so accurately describe it as "E46 ZHP" are asking why I accurately describe it as "used?" As to your accusation that's rather funny. Son, where I grew up, no one but rich people had a new car. And when I say "new car" I'm talking a Chrysler sedan.

But your "personally love" your car yet deny my statement that you have reached irrational levels of feelings towards this vehicle? You plan to keep it forever? rolleyes.gif

Again.. what? Are you trolling me brah? When was I ever denying the fact that it's used? I'm at a loss of words here.. what exactly are you getting at? I refer to my car as an E46 ZHP because it IS an E46 ZHP.

Irrational feelings towards the car because I want to keep it for a long time? WTF? Dude are you smoking crack?

If someone had an M3 CSL and referred to it as an M3 CSL, would you call them out on that? Is he only allowed to refer to it as a used M3?

Seriously man, I don't know what you're trying to allude to. It sounds like there's something you want to say to me -- just say it.

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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

I love bimmers but ZHP is just a 330 with an M aero package/wheels/steering wheel and 10 more hp.  Username79 is correct when he states that zhp prices are artificially high.  The amount of pricing overlap with used E46 M3s is astounding.  As Rick James memorably quipped "Cocaine is a hellova drug"

Okay, you don't know what you're talking about. It's not just cosmetic.

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ZHP has hotter cams, different software, different springs and dampers, along with different interior and exterior cosmetics. 10 HP on paper doesn't sound like much but the car drives more differently than its specs would suggest. I remember when they first came out and someone brought a very new one to the racetrack. We all thought it wouldn't be a big deal, because of its modest specs, but it was a very impressive car, almost a good substitute for not having a 4-door E46 M3.

It's a cult car, but fully deserving of its reputation. And it's great when people keep and take care of their cars. The environmental cost of manufacturing new cars is something most people don't consider when they buy a hybrid or some other high MPG car in order to be more environmentally friendly.

As for overpriced, who cares? If someone's willing to pay the price, then it doesn't really matter.

Thank you. Seriously, what a breath of fresh air. It's a regular 330i with enhanced internals and it makes for a nice midpoint between a regular 330i and an M3. That's it.

As someone who's driven a regular 330i as well, the difference is quite noticeable.
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We get it GF, you like your ZHP. I don't think you need to extol its countless virtues every few weeks.

Yeah, well maybe people should stop antagonizing me over my damn car over baseless, inane claims.

To think that my stating my personal dislike of the Range Rover's design got us to HERE is absolutely ridiculous.

WOW.

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post #8654 of 14199
Last generation 3-series. That's what I'd call it if it was mine and someone asked.

And my car? Just a 2012 GL. It will be gone at the latest in August 2014, could be as soon as March 2014. It's just a fucking hunk of metal I'm enjoying for a max of 24 months.
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I will have you know that when people in real life ask me what kind of car I have, I always tell them I drive "an older 3 series." I understand the stigma that comes attached with being a younger person and driving a BMW, so I try to make it as ambiguous as possible in terms of the model name and throw in the 'older' term to make it clear I'm not the type of kid who leases a base 3 series out of college because it was the only one I could afford in terms of monthly payments with an entry level salary (although I was very close to leasing a 335is.. god that would have been the worst financial move I could have made out of college. Thank god I didn't.)

Only once has my answer sparked additional probing, wherein I realized the other guy was a fellow BMW aficionado and we talked about cars for an hour (post-meeting with a more senior co-worker; feels good, man).
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