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post #7921 of 14920
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

And each and every one of them are crap vehicles that will end up in a scrapyard somewhere in 15 years, rather than being preservable cars of good taste that people will want to continue to run.

Speaking of collectable will the E61 M5 become collectable?

They only made about a thousand wagons out of 20k cars.
post #7922 of 14920
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Originally Posted by JuyLe View Post

sorry to interrupt. spotted this car in Hamburg last time:


That's the bomb right there. Nice post.

Was it real rally or a knock off?


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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

I have literally never seen an S8 on the road. Saw a couple at a dealership and I think The Transporter was driving one. I've seen more LF-A's on the mean streets than S8's

Ya, very very few out there. They were like $120,000 the year I bought my car. I test drove a used one once. Pretty impressive to have such a large car do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds.

I see more R8's than S8's for sure... that V10 Lambo engine was fucking sweet. Wish it came in a stick shift.
post #7923 of 14920
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

I have literally never seen an S8 on the road. Saw a couple at a dealership and I think The Transporter was driving one. I've seen more LF-A's on the mean streets than S8's
I've seen maybe three D3's and one D4, all in or around Chicago. The sighting of each one made me giddy.
post #7924 of 14920
Pio, just get a fucking bimmer already, lulz
post #7925 of 14920
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

That is very incorrect RRS has a 958 liters boot and a X5 has 620 liters, so that is almost 30% less/more how ever way you look at it, an E wagon has a bigger boot than the X5 (695 liters).
The new range rover diesels do about 13km/l and the petrol does about 11km/l an escalade does less than 9 km/l, also according to cadillac europe an escalade only holds 478 liters behind the 2nd row of seats and the RR holds 909 liters.

We live in America. Gas motherfucker.

Escalade 14/18: http://www.cadillac.com/2012-escalade-suv/features-specs/standard-optional-equipment.html

Rangie: 14/20: http://www.landrover.com/us/en/lr/all-new-range-rover/explore/range-rover/

As mentioned ,wheelbase is almost exactly the same. The statement no one buys an Escalade in Europe due to size and mileage, vs. a RR, is bunk. Sorry, mate.

Your statement about the cargo size of the Escalade vs. the RR only supports my contention that you saying the 'Slade is not bought due to being too big is incorrect.
post #7926 of 14920
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Originally Posted by JayJay View Post

I've seen maybe three D3's and one D4, all in or around Chicago. The sighting of each one made me giddy.

I cant tell the difference between a D4 and an A6. Was driving next to one this morning on the beltway, geez, the font on the A8 even makes it look like an A6. I know Audi wants to be discreet, but yo.
post #7927 of 14920
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

I cant tell the difference between a D4 and an A6. Was driving next to one this morning on the beltway, geez, the font on the A8 even makes it look like an A6. I know Audi wants to be discreet, but yo.
I was referring to the D3 and D4 S8, but I agree that the D4 A8 is hard to distinguish from the A6. I have to look very close at the car to tell whether it's an A6 or A8.
post #7928 of 14920
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Originally Posted by JayJay View Post

I was referring to the D3 and D4 S8, but I agree that the D4 A8 is hard to distinguish from the A6. I have to look very close at the car to tell whether it's an A6 or A8.

I wont but a D4. I dont like its lines. The D3 has stunning lines, one of the best looking rear ends ever.

I was planning on replacing my car in 2 years, unless they change it, I'm prly moving away from Audi.

I mean come on, this:



To this?





Like going from this to this.







post #7929 of 14920
I like the profile of the new A8, wish I could afford one (with a driver)

As for modern mass-production classics, I'd probably not include the E39 M5 - recirculating ball steering, plus they flogged a ton of M-sport 5ers in that generation that made them look 85% like an M5, in foreign markets it's common to see 525i's done up to look like M5's because all they had to do was change the crossbar in the bumper for the mesh (was a separate piece) and change the diffuser to a double-outlet, plus M5 mirrors. Exclusivity kinda hurting there. E34 M5? so classic.
The E46 M3, yes. Total classic. Would need to be on the 19"s and be absolutely mint, but a car worth having in 20 years. Exclusive body, the right motor/driveline combination, stellar reputation.

We've already talked about the others, Z8, etc. There is almost nothing that Mercedes has made in the past 20-25 years that is worth labeling a classic. Likewise, Audi hasn't either - in 10-15 years time you'd look at something like an RS4 Avant and say 'that was a cool car back then, but this person must be very quirky to want to drive one now' - which is what I think when I see RS2's and ur-Quattros go by randomly (thanks Japan, and your esoteric car tastes) Porsche hasn't really made much since the 993 that is insta-classic.

The Quattroporte will be a classic amongst car people at least, I think. Great looks, Ferrari pedigree, way underpriced for what it was. The 4.7 GTS in black/black will be pretty immortal, but even the base automatika pre-facelift has an air of taste about it.

LP640 and the Aventador, probably nearing insta-classic status.

It was so much easier to name the modern insta-classics about 15 years ago.... frown.gif
post #7930 of 14920
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Speaking of collectable will the E61 M5 become collectable?
They only made about a thousand wagons out of 20k cars.

probably not. Hurt by the design. Rare, but not good looking.
post #7931 of 14920
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

There is almost nothing that Mercedes has made in the past 20-25 years that is worth labeling a classic.

No way. The S550 is a star. Would buy. In fact if Audi doesnt move from the current plat you oddly like, its my next car.

The SLS AMG... instant classic. Neighbor has one, what a monster.
post #7932 of 14920
There's nothing sadder than an aging S-class, Mr Powers.

SLS AMG, maybe. The SLR seemed to have everything in spades but 8 years later it's just not on the same level as the other supercars from that time (C-GT, Enzo) - and the SLS isn't even as good as the SLR.....
post #7933 of 14920
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

There is almost nothing that Mercedes has made in the past 20-25 years that is worth labeling a classic.

lol







just to name a few...
post #7934 of 14920
One of my favorite old benzes was the hammer. Goddam.
post #7935 of 14920
I catch myself searching for them on eBay and Craigslist from time to time. This one is for sale locally. Too bad it's 2-tone and not triple black.



Doesn't get much better than this (thought I'd black out the chrome window moldings):





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