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Only known one real family with a Merc E wagon in all my life, despite being familiar with them; it was a brown super diesel W123 wagon while I was in grade school in the 80's. Their other car was a vintage Rolls Royce on cinder blocks with no hope of running by way of apathy, and they lived in a large victorian built by a retired pirate or something. It was interesting. The E-class, that is.
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post

All the old-money people here drive Camry's or 20 year-old Mercs. Worrying about your car brand is a middle-class affectation.

That's true for a set of monied in the way you describe.

I know many car guys that are not like that but live in very modest homes, dress modestly, etc. Its not a brushstroke you can make so easily. And generally they do have a passion of one form or another in which the $ goes such as art and antiques... I attend auctions all the time and see it there. They'll bid up something they collect and really want without any hesitation, way past its actual value.

The best way I have learned to separate new/no money from old money is to see how they react to free.
post #7878 of 14976
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

Only known one real family with a Merc E wagon in all my life, despite being familiar with them; it was a brown super diesel W123 wagon while I was in grade school in the 80's. Their other car was a vintage Rolls Royce on cinder blocks with no hope of running by way of apathy, and they lived in a large victorian built by a retired pirate or something. It was interesting. The E-class, that is.


Wanting a 3rd car, I actually looked for an E320 about 5 years ago. Main reason is that its one of the few wagons with a 7th seat. Its a damn solid car too. I didn't end up buying one, but still would except that I need space to move auction purchases.
post #7879 of 14976
Speaking of e350s (non wagon) a buddy got an e350 lease for 350 or 370 a month recently, incredible deal with I think 2k down or some such.
post #7880 of 14976
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

Aren't you in NYC? The rich people here seem to be chauffeured, often in a black SUV or S-Class.

no I am on the gold coast of long island, matched only in douchiness by the upper east side.
post #7881 of 14976
In and around NYC, those E wagons are hard to get and leases are terrible. I priced one out before I got the GL and it was more expensive. Go figure. Still like it though. I think the RRS is starting to lease well, they realized they couldn't keep charging so much for a somewhat dated car that hasn't had a real body change in quite some time. If I didn't despise my local LR dealership, I would consider switching back.
post #7882 of 14976
I finally got some time and test drove that D2 S8 and wow, she a dream. Big and comfortable but didn't feel large at all while steering and maneuvering. Very composed without being harsh on the shitty local roads. Gobs of power, I had the pedal pressed halfway down and was pretty much slammed into the amazing Recaro leather seats. There was one small paint chip on the trunk and one piece of chrome trim that would need to be replaced. It was really mint and you could tell the previous owner loved it.

There are some things I'd want to check out more in depth before purchasing, such as seals on the drive shaft coming out of the trans, checking for oil around the valve covers, inspecting CV boots etc. The guy had replaced the rear brake calipers and did rotors/pads all around so that's nice.

The problem is my dad is worried about luxury german auto's that are in the middle of their life. He hasn't sat in it yet so that could change with a test drive. I'm ready to put my half of the money down on it.
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Originally Posted by Beckwith View Post

In and around NYC, those E wagons are hard to get and leases are terrible. I priced one out before I got the GL and it was more expensive. Go figure. Still like it though. I think the RRS is starting to lease well, they realized they couldn't keep charging so much for a somewhat dated car that hasn't had a real body change in quite some time. If I didn't despise my local LR dealership, I would consider switching back.

For the same price as the GL I could not justify an RRS. I know you drive the same ride so you know what I mean. Now, if I could scoop an RRS for ML prices...Mrs. Piob has like the RRS since I had my Rover before the current streak of GLs so I know she'd take it over the ML.
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

I finally got some time and test drove that D2 S8 and wow, she a dream. Big and comfortable but didn't feel large at all while steering and maneuvering. Very composed without being harsh on the shitty local roads. Gobs of power, I had the pedal pressed halfway down and was pretty much slammed into the amazing Recaro leather seats. There was one small paint chip on the trunk and one piece of chrome trim that would need to be replaced. It was really mint and you could tell the previous owner loved it.
There are some things I'd want to check out more in depth before purchasing, such as seals on the drive shaft coming out of the trans, checking for oil around the valve covers, inspecting CV boots etc. The guy had replaced the rear brake calipers and did rotors/pads all around so that's nice.
The problem is my dad is worried about luxury german auto's that are in the middle of their life. He hasn't sat in it yet so that could change with a test drive. I'm ready to put my half of the money down on it.

honestly, sounds like it could be risky. This is a 10 year old S8, right? Probably ripe for some 4 or 5 figure repair bills.
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

I finally got some time and test drove that D2 S8 and wow, she a dream. Big and comfortable but didn't feel large at all while steering and maneuvering. Very composed without being harsh on the shitty local roads. Gobs of power, I had the pedal pressed halfway down and was pretty much slammed into the amazing Recaro leather seats. There was one small paint chip on the trunk and one piece of chrome trim that would need to be replaced. It was really mint and you could tell the previous owner loved it.
There are some things I'd want to check out more in depth before purchasing, such as seals on the drive shaft coming out of the trans, checking for oil around the valve covers, inspecting CV boots etc. The guy had replaced the rear brake calipers and did rotors/pads all around so that's nice.
The problem is my dad is worried about luxury german auto's that are in the middle of their life. He hasn't sat in it yet so that could change with a test drive. I'm ready to put my half of the money down on it.

DO NOT BUY AN OLD S8, it will cost you an arm, a leg, a kidney and your first born and their first born to repair.
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

I finally got some time and test drove that D2 S8 and wow, she a dream. Big and comfortable but didn't feel large at all while steering and maneuvering. Very composed without being harsh on the shitty local roads. Gobs of power, I had the pedal pressed halfway down and was pretty much slammed into the amazing Recaro leather seats. There was one small paint chip on the trunk and one piece of chrome trim that would need to be replaced. It was really mint and you could tell the previous owner loved it.
There are some things I'd want to check out more in depth before purchasing, such as seals on the drive shaft coming out of the trans, checking for oil around the valve covers, inspecting CV boots etc. The guy had replaced the rear brake calipers and did rotors/pads all around so that's nice.
The problem is my dad is worried about luxury german auto's that are in the middle of their life. He hasn't sat in it yet so that could change with a test drive. I'm ready to put my half of the money down on it.

How many miles?

Timing belt... I think the D2 still uses a belt.
Check ALL electrical functions.
Make sure quattro diffs are sealed
Does D2 have air suspension? Check the compressor.


2 great sources for help and info:

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/audi-a8-10/

http://forums.audiworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8 (this subfora is dedicated to the D2 platform)

I've used those forums to help me nail down small problems, very helpful guys, even a few mechanics post there.

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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

DO NOT BUY AN OLD S8, it will cost you an arm, a leg, a kidney and your first born and their first born to repair.

It can get expensive, but a well maintained version is manageable. Just EXPECT to get a large bill once and a while. Don't go in with fantasies.
post #7887 of 14976
Timing belt was done at 70k, it has 80k right now. The ONLY thing would be the Tranny but it felt really strong and shifted cleanly, no seeking, no clanks when changing into D or R. It will eventually need replacing but that's down the road a bit (seems to be reports of it dying in the 120k+ region, more like 150k and up. If it does happen, I'd look into doing a manual swap myself from a euro spec S8 (has been done before and documented).

Not an air suspension so no worries there.

I already poured over those forums, thanks idfnl. I know what I'd be getting into. My dad and I rebuilt my brothers Land Rover engine redoing all the gaskets, seals, etc. We're mechanically adept and not afraid to turn screws. I think he just doesn't want another possible project on his hands, which is understandable. Need to get it on a lift and poke around to see how it looks.
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I would like to ask the married guys here what a good SUV for the wife and kids??? I was thinking Toureg, anyone has it?
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

Timing belt was done at 70k, it has 80k right now. The ONLY thing would be the Tranny but it felt really strong and shifted cleanly, no seeking, no clanks when changing into D or R. It will eventually need replacing but that's down the road a bit (seems to be reports of it dying in the 120k+ region, more like 150k and up. If it does happen, I'd look into doing a manual swap myself from a euro spec S8 (has been done before and documented).
Not an air suspension so no worries there.
I already poured over those forums, thanks idfnl. I know what I'd be getting into. My dad and I rebuilt my brothers Land Rover engine redoing all the gaskets, seals, etc. We're mechanically adept and not afraid to turn screws. I think he just doesn't want another possible project on his hands, which is understandable. Need to get it on a lift and poke around to see how it looks.

you could achieve ultimate synergy with this thread if you recreated the Ronin Car chase scene using old crusty UES people's Mercs and your S8... unfortunately no citroens and pegeuots frown.gif throughout manhattan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFO2kxihlqI
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

Timing belt was done at 70k, it has 80k right now. The ONLY thing would be the Tranny but it felt really strong and shifted cleanly, no seeking, no clanks when changing into D or R. It will eventually need replacing but that's down the road a bit (seems to be reports of it dying in the 120k+ region, more like 150k and up. If it does happen, I'd look into doing a manual swap myself from a euro spec S8 (has been done before and documented).
Not an air suspension so no worries there.
I already poured over those forums, thanks idfnl. I know what I'd be getting into. My dad and I rebuilt my brothers Land Rover engine redoing all the gaskets, seals, etc. We're mechanically adept and not afraid to turn screws. I think he just doesn't want another possible project on his hands, which is understandable. Need to get it on a lift and poke around to see how it looks.

If you can turn a wrench, you can save a lot of money. Also, that platform has lots of used/recon parts out there.

Just be weary of the electronics. That's usually not something you can manage on your own.

Timing belt sounds good. Tranny? Hmmm... I've not heard that. My mechanic knows guys that are over 300k and going strong.
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