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post #6436 of 10018
8/7/12 at 3:48pm
In the next 3-5 years, I'll definitely have an R8 or Vantage but for now I think a Porsche will have to do since that one will be a keeper and I will have no plan to let it go (Cayman or 911). I'm just glad Audi decided to put the S-tronic on the R8, hopefully the next gen will have that tranny stock (no more manual tranny sadly) and Vantage feels like I don't want to own it if maintenance and breakdowns will be a concern and at this point, I feel that will be a big undertaking so it'll have to wait a few years. The Cayman comes out early next year so it'll be easy to decide between that or the 911.
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post #6437 of 10018
8/7/12 at 4:26pm
did my research on the Vantage a couple of years back - owner reports say that the car is very reliable and Ford did a good job with quality and cost of repairs (relatively so, of course, compared to other near exotics). gorgeous car but the performance is sorely lacking against the competition and for what you'd expect from a car that looks and sounds like that.

but dear God if you test drive the thing in a tunnel with the top down be prepared to write the seller a check on the spot when you get back
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post #6438 of 10018
8/7/12 at 4:33pm
Just reading through 6speedonline forum, it seems there is still an occurring oil leak problem that sometimes the dealership doesn't cover and can cost $5k+ to fix. Then not to mention the much more expensive regular maintenance (at least 3-4 times that of a Porsche Cayman or 911), the maintenance and insurance I can handle but those unexpected breakdown like the oil leak or new clutch (some also reported some need replacing after 5k miles) that can go $5k-$12k, those are much more difficult to swallow at this point.

Porsche just seems such an easier car to maintain and a car I could see myself keeping the same car for the next 20 years or more. Just curious but how is yours holding up?
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post #6439 of 10018
8/7/12 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

I still can't fathom a Camaro being near $60K, even $50K. Are blue-collar jobs that high paying now?
the ZL1 and its main rival the Shelby GT500 are supposed to be budget supercars, though - high 500's to mid 600 HP, 200 mph, 10-11 sec quarter miles and strong track performance. trying to out-GTR the GTR i suppose.

you won't get a better performance per dollar ratio absolutely anywhere and they'll sell like hot cakes to guys who just want to be king of the strip and can get over the fact that they are paying $60k to drive a Camaro everyday (or enjoy sticking it to Porsche and Ferrari drivers).

of the two I think I would prefer the Shelby though.
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post #6440 of 10018
8/7/12 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Just reading through 6speedonline forum, it seems there is still an occurring oil leak problem that sometimes the dealership doesn't cover and can cost $5k+ to fix. Then not to mention the much more expensive regular maintenance (at least 3-4 times that of a Porsche Cayman or 911), the maintenance and insurance I can handle but those unexpected breakdown like the oil leak or new clutch (some also reported some need replacing after 5k miles) that can go $5k-$12k, those are much more difficult to swallow at this point.
Porsche just seems such an easier car to maintain and a car I could see myself keeping the same car for the next 20 years or more. Just curious but how is yours holding up?
very well. I think the most expensive bill for me were $2k for Michelins and $1k for brake pads/service. I also had all the seals replaced under warranty because of a slow oil leak. but Porsches are well known for being bulletproof but expensive to service.

if you're used to servicing bills from BMW and Lexus, the Porsche/Aston world is definitely a step above in terms of maintenance cost. but the important thing is that they're reliable - I agree that it's the unexpected breakdown that really kills you
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post #6441 of 10018
8/7/12 at 5:02pm
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but dear God if you test drive the thing in a tunnel with the top down be prepared to write the seller a check on the spot when you get back

they do sound incredible....inlove.gif
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post #6442 of 10018
8/7/12 at 5:26pm
settle for the new cayman.

lol
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post #6443 of 10018
8/7/12 at 5:37pm
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settle for the new cayman.

lol

Laughing at the Cayman? It handles better than the Vantage & R8 and even the 911, it's just under-powered in comparison but it is much more fun to drive and whip around on the track.

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if you're used to servicing bills from BMW and Lexus, the Porsche/Aston world is definitely a step above in terms of maintenance cost. but the important thing is that they're reliable - I agree that it's the unexpected breakdown that really kills you

True, I'm just not convinced the Vantage is more (or as) reliable than a Cayman/911 or R8 yet. I'll do more research in the next year or so.
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post #6444 of 10018
8/7/12 at 5:48pm
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Laughing at the Cayman? It handles better than the Vantage & R8 and even the 911, it's just under-powered in comparison but it is much more fun to drive and whip around on the track.
True, I'm just not convinced the Vantage is more (or as) reliable than a Cayman/911 or R8 yet. I'll do more research in the next year or so.

No. I'm laughing that someone would just causally say that they're ''settling'' for a $60,000 car s'all. Nothin' personal, I know you're a good dude. smile.gif
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post #6445 of 10018
8/7/12 at 5:52pm
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With all the baller car talk here I would have thought settling for a Cayman is considered plebeian. lol8[1].gif
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post #6446 of 10018
8/7/12 at 6:22pm

I think the Cayman/Boxster range are great cars.  ! would be happy with them.  Unless I lived in snow, then I would go with Audi's new Allroad, or a gently used one.  The Allroad was one of the best snow cars ever, plus a great car anytime.  I had a VW R32 which I used to drive to ski.  4 snows and it was like a snowmobile.  4 summer tires and it was like driving on rails.  Great bang for the buck, esp the original with the stick.

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post #6447 of 10018
8/7/12 at 6:29pm
I really can't wait to see the new Cayman in person, it's supposed to debut at the LA Autoshow and I never miss it.

And speaking of Audis, the new A5/S5/RS5 is really growing on me, the more I see it the nicer it looks. I am also liking the new A6/S6 and would even take it over 528/535 but I'd probably still take an XF over those two though.
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post #6448 of 10018
8/7/12 at 6:35pm
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True, I'm just not convinced the Vantage is more (or as) reliable than a Cayman/911 or R8 yet. I'll do more research in the next year or so.
in comparing notes with Vantage owners, I would absolutely agree with you. in the class and among 2007 or newer models, Porsche is probably at the top of the list reliability wise, with Aston a step less reliable but much better than Ferrari or Maserati. not sure about the R8, though
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post #6449 of 10018
8/7/12 at 6:39pm
I don't care how bad the service can be for BMWs. I will always be a BMW fan for life!
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post #6450 of 10018
8/7/12 at 6:51pm
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I still can't fathom a Camaro being near $60K, even $50K. Are blue-collar jobs that high paying now?

 

avg coal miner or gas field worker in my area, HS education at best, makes 100-120k in a very low CoL area, wives have jobs too, usually part time 20 to 30k

they all have homes paid off, trucks, cars, kids in college and nice savings (my wife is a cpa and does taxes)

they are frugal and usually pay cash

 

sounds like your uncle is a douche, won't pay for his kids, and the ex-wife must have a crappy lawyer if he gets a way with it

the lawyers I know she'd be driving one of his air cooled Porsches

sounds like a silver spooned, irresponsible asshole....just saying

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