Cars We Drive! - Page 384

I was thinking about an F10 335d but since I'm not in a position to buy this at all I didn't exactly think it through tbh. Alpina D3 indeed sounds really good but I might be losing on the mileage, reliability and servicing cost. All of this for what maybe a couple of seconds to the 0-100, I might still go with a recent stock beemer.

In America, we put our dogs on the roofs of our cars.

If you were serious about spending $$$ on a sport wagon, you could always do an engine transplant. Someone I know has an E46 Touring that has the E46 M3 drivetrain in it. It goes very fast.

On a separate subject, a friend took some pictures at this past weekend's Cars & Coffee in Irvine. Among other things, 7 McLaren MP4-12Cs showed up (the dealer brought them), along with an FF, and a GT40.







Right after that, across the street, the LA Chapter of the BMW Club had a Street Survival school where we teach teenaged drivers how to deal with their cars at the limits of adhesion. My student brought a Toyota Sienna, which was surprisingly competent. It had a lot of pickup and go, as well as really decent brakes. Even more surprising was how tossable the minivan was before traction control kicked in. Traction control was a bit spastic, kicking in after the traction event, but I've been told this happens with Toyota's sportier cars, like the IS250, too. You can turn it off, and the limits are a bit higher, but it will turn itself back on if you activate ABS, or if you reach some limit it deems unsafe (though the panel in that case still claims that it's off). The steering feel was also good enough that my student could feel the grip come back when she unwound the wheel during understeer.

If you have seen the Falken TV ad with their ALMS 911 RSR transforming into a street 911, all the chase scenes in that ad were shot from a Toyota Sienna --- you can kind of see the van in a reflection for a split-second. When the person who drove the camera van told me how good that van was, I didn't believe him until this weekend.

Alpina has the same warranty has BMW, so they are safe to buy.

I have been looking at big diesels for a while now and I was surprised how much more Alpina you get compared to stock bmw.

Brand new D5, thats the same as a stock 535d.

I'll take the benz.

I used to hate waking up for CC haven't been in years but I might have to again one day though I fucking hate the pos city of irvine.

Find Finn, thanks I'll keep that in mind. Although right now i'd be more like old 2L Passat Wagon than anything else haha :/

Everyone at the golf club that has an RS6 or M5T has it because they have kids to take to school, garbage to take to the reuse dump, dogs to walk and clubs to keep in the boot. They get the Extra-Super-Duper-Fast because they have the cash and like to be able to floor it for shits and giggles when there is no one in the car with them. They're not "drivers" they're middle aged people who wanted to tell their middle aged friends that their new car will go faster than everyone else's.

Want an E65 because those seconds shaved off your lap times keep you awake? MB doesn't care. Upper manager with 2.4 children and a set of golf clubs? Right this way... Would Sir care for a coffee?

E65 sweet V12 estate.

I like these kinds of cars, where the owner makes a shadetree special that never existed in a product catalog but can be made from the parts catalog - I really wanted this E34 '550i' wagon that was on ebay many years ago. Unfortunately you never get any money out of them when it comes time to sell them, they're hard to price for sale even still, and you can only really do these things in America or rural parts of Europe where parts are plentiful and you have space to have a non-running car for months or years. Also, you can forget about a warranty or financing. :P This guy did one too:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492494

impolyt:
- older and married
- lives in an expensive-as-fuck city with no room to spare for extra cars
- cares about utility and loves wagons


myself:
- younger and a bachelor
- live in Dallas where parking is never an issue and having multiple cars is completely feasible (although, having lived in boston for 5 years, it'd be feasible to own two cars there as well)
- does not give a fuck about utility and hates wagons

I think that sums up our differing points of view. Yes, we argued over performance figures and whatnot, but this is what it really boils down to.

I'm right in between.

I feel like car nuts always have a soft spot for high performance wagons. I always have, and it seems like that sentiment is shared by all sorts of car-nut oriented media (see e.g. www.autoblog.com, Top Gear UK). Something about making it a family cargo-hauler/grocery-getter meets 450 hp of V-8 AMG glory gets our fluids going.

 

It's not about the extra utility that comes with a wagon. You just gotta be into it to get it.

 

Here's a good example:

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/29/mercedes-benz-c63-amg-black-series-estate-preparing-to-storm-the/

 

 

And another:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/officially-official-2011-cadillac-cts-v-sport-wagon-unleashed/

Can you guys start separate threads when things get off topic?
for instance the whole wagon argument.
Please? Thank you

yes, car guru.

ftfy

Kanye and his Aventador






Given to him by this chick: