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post #3016 of 14761
The engineered drops, like you get with Eibach or H&R springs are fine. The slammed drops where someone just screws down their spring perches as low as they will go are just plain stupid, not only in looks but also functionality. When someone shows me how their roll centers, camber rate, and other suspension variables are improved or changed by a drop, and how that was determined by methodical, incremental testing by a driver who can consistently drive a lap within a margin of error of 0.1 seconds, then we'll talk.
post #3017 of 14761
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I know exactly what you mean, it's the same shit in socal. Bmws are hondas here.
I'd probably get a zo6 before anything else short of gt3 money but that's what suits my preferences.

This is true. You'd think the M3s $60k price tag would stop a few people but at times, it seems like I can't go a few blocks w/o a damn M3. I'm glad the Z4 is still pretty rare around here, I think I've seen a total of 2 ever since it came out in 2009.

But Jet, go big or go home. ZR1 > _____
post #3018 of 14761
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When someone shows me how their roll centers, camber rate, and other suspension variables are improved or changed by a drop, and how that was determined by methodical, incremental testing by a driver who can consistently drive a lap within a margin of error of 0.1 seconds, then we'll talk.

Looks like you'll be talking to yourself because I don't think too many people here give a shit about this stuff. I take it Fast & Furious is still your favourite movie?
post #3019 of 14761
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Looks like you'll be talking to yourself because I don't think too many people here give a shit about this stuff. I take it Fast & Furious is still your favourite movie?

Wow, you really put me in my place. Good job! fing02[1].gif
post #3020 of 14761
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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

When someone shows me how their roll centers, camber rate, and other suspension variables are improved or changed by a drop, and how that was determined by methodical, incremental testing by a driver who can consistently drive a lap within a margin of error of 0.1 seconds, then we'll talk.

Looks like you'll be talking to yourself because I don't think too many people here give a shit about this stuff. I take it Fast & Furious is still your favourite movie?

Lulz. AY's approach is the antithesis of the Fast & Furious approach.
post #3021 of 14761
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Lulz. AY's approach is the antithesis of the Fast & Furious approach.

I was thinking the same thing...more Gran Turismo (video game) than Fast and the Furious.
post #3022 of 14761
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Lulz. AY's approach is the antithesis of the Fast & Furious approach.

I was thinking the same thing...more Gran Turismo (video game) than Fast and the Furious.

That's certainly more plausible. The whole F&F thing is pretty bizarre. It's all about changing your car's appearance to conform to an aesthetic based loosely on that of a road race car with its very lowered suspension, large air dams and wings, ground effects, etc. A further irony is that to whatever degree actual performance is a criterion for the F&F crowd, it's straight-line drag performance for which many of the attributes of a road race car are either entirely irrelevant or even detrimental.
post #3023 of 14761
dude, even road race nerds are as bad about that - look at Arthur PE's posts, he is basing everything on Nurburgring Nordschleife lap times. Who the fuck in America drives the Nurburgring? Give me a break.
post #3024 of 14761
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dude, even road race nerds are as bad about that - look at Arthur PE's posts, he is basing everything on Nurburgring Nordschleife lap times. Who the fuck in America drives the Nurburgring? Give me a break.

There are track days at, you know, race tracks. The performance at the ring will more readily translate to a track than say 1/4 mile, 0-60 , skid pad results, or whatever other numbers manufacturers spout. Then again, hardly anyone in the general population would actually go to a track day so the point is kinda moot.
post #3025 of 14761
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dude, even road race nerds are as bad about that - look at Arthur PE's posts, he is basing everything on Nurburgring Nordschleife lap times. Who the fuck in America drives the Nurburgring? Give me a break.

You sound like James May of Top Gear.


In my opinion if drive on low profile tyres profile 35 or less the space between top of wheel arch and the tyre should be one or two fingers width.

Having the wheel and tyre inside the arch makes it undrivable and stupid looking and to much air, just makes it look likes it's afraid of the ground.
post #3026 of 14761
That's it, I'm getting hydraulics so I can adjust the height on the spot. Make it jump over potholes.
post #3027 of 14761
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

dude, even road race nerds are as bad about that - look at Arthur PE's posts, he is basing everything on Nurburgring Nordschleife lap times. Who the fuck in America drives the Nurburgring? Give me a break.

I don't disagree. Those are the guys that set up their street cars with race suspensions that rattle the fillings out of their teeth during their commutes to work. The thing they have over the F&F crowd is that those mods may actually improve performance in a track environment while the F&F mods are largely detrimental to performance in any environment.
post #3028 of 14761

I'm the pussy drop guy, you're just a pussy

 

driving skill enters into the mix, and I'm betting I could beat you in 1990 civic and you in your car

 

It's already be established you know nothing about cars: '997 handing an M3 its ass' comment, they are the same speed...

and to confirm this, you think " slammin' and tuckin' " is some kind of engineered solution, 'persian bro', stick with something you know, like nothing

 

as far as bang for the buck: BMW > Porsche and Audi, and way over MB, unless of course all you care about is appearance, as in 'a dime a dozen', which is a very superficial way to evaluate a cars performance

 

 

Originally Posted by jet View Post

Whoa whoa why has pussy drop guy resorted to attacks? Guess I got under his skin on that one, especially considering how stupid he sounds when my car would hand his rs4 its ass with my suspension set-up vs his "tuv" approved springs lol8[1].gif
187, avoid bmws like you said they're a dime a dozen. S5 is nice like a big floaty couch on wheels, drove one awhile back nice car.


 

post #3029 of 14761

exactly

it's a system: and an M3/RS4/997 is already tuned and lowering/stiffening is a compromise, just a bit more performace at the sacrifice of a little comfort

but mostly it's 'looks' or optiks techniks

 

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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

The engineered drops, like you get with Eibach or H&R springs are fine. The slammed drops where someone just screws down their spring perches as low as they will go are just plain stupid, not only in looks but also functionality. When someone shows me how their roll centers, camber rate, and other suspension variables are improved or changed by a drop, and how that was determined by methodical, incremental testing by a driver who can consistently drive a lap within a margin of error of 0.1 seconds, then we'll talk.


 

post #3030 of 14761
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Looks like you'll be talking to yourself because I don't think too many people here give a shit about this stuff. I take it Fast & Furious is still your favourite movie?



he's one of the few making sense

you would be one of the others

 

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