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Lol - let's hope so. Such alliances have proven unholy in the past

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Vibe
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Oooooohh....so maybe the new ones are much better then. I've heard great things about the ATS chassis

You, here
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/news/a28658/harpers-bizarre-2016-camaro-ss-review/
Lol
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Japanese understress their engines. It is why they are so reliable and they have difficult building a competitive sports car.

I am curious to see if the rumored Supra successor breaks that formula but I suspect it will be underpowered for the price.

 

Seriously. I'm reading stuff on miata forums a bit and it seems like a new clutch and the stock LSD can handle like 230 RWHP with a turbo. That's pretty insane considering that my car comes with like 115 RWHP. 


The fact that you can double the horsepower and still have a reliable car is insane. Obviously you need to get a different ecu and injectors etc as well, but still...

 

That said, I'm not sure that holds true for subarus. Even 5 lbs of boost would make my impreza engine shatter. And the WRX engines have loads of issues when people try to overboost them from the factory spec. Then again, they're probably doing it like idiots.

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Thats also what makes them good canidates for a v8 swap. New motor mounts, some (not a lot) front end work and a 8.8 ford rear diff and you are having a blast.
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In some pm's exchanged earlier, @Thrift Vader  had basically outlined a build plan to get the car to a naturally aspirated 140RWHP which would probably run about 2k and be built up using parts that could all be used if the car were to be turbo'ed at a later date.

 

It honestly looks like there are a TON of options out there to turbo the car, as in the upgrade paths. It seems like forums are full of parts from people that are in various versions of the build. It looks like there are paths to go low boost (5-6 psi) without an intercooler. Then add an intercooler and go a bit higher if you add injectors as well. Then go for a bigger turbo and stainless oil return lines and a pump. Etc.


He basically suggested starting with headers and exhaust work and a cold air intake. Then adding something like a megasquirt to replace the stock ECU. If the path is followed here and I add low boost, I'd likely blow the stock clutch since even 5-6psi would add quite a bit to the car if all that stuff is done. At that point he suggested a lighter flywheel and stronger clutch. Yada yada yada.


It's in my nature to tinker, but doing something like this piecemeal kinda like legos is a pretty cool idea. If I ran out of time or money or just didn't feel like fucking around anymore, I could always just stop. I'd still have a working car that was fun and still reliable.

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Thats also what makes them good canidates for a v8 swap. New motor mounts, some (not a lot) front end work and a 8.8 ford rear diff and you are having a blast.

 

That swap also runs atleast 15 grand!

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$4k for the kit parts. LS engine (ot better yet LQ4 out of a wrecked truck) tranny, diff for about $3k. Hardly $15k.

But yes, it is more than a turbo. But also more fun smile.gif

http://www.bossfrog.biz/Miata_V8_Swap.html

Oh yeah, axles too.
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We all get that you basically hate European cars, and love Japanese cars.
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I think its great that you wrench on your car and others.  It is clear you have plenty of insight and love for Japanese cars.  However, what does "intimately acquainted" with BMW, Ferrari, Lotus, Renault, Volvo mean?

As for reliability, I have friends who use their BMWs and Porsches as daily drivers.  They have had no major issues and no starting problems.  One of my friends traded his 2008 335i in with 140,000 miles.  The only issue he had was at 87,000 miles, was a fuel pump that died.  That could happen in any car.  In the 1st 140,000 miles of ownership our 2004 Subaru Legacy (purchased new) we had 2 blown head gaskets, 2 catalytic converter replacements, and numerous low beam headlamp bulb replacements. The main reason we bought another Subie was it was the least expensive car (not SUV) available with AWD (oh and on that car we had to have the rear wheel bearings replaced).  They still seem to have headlamp issues.  I just got a notice Subie is instituting a low beam warranty from 10 years of the in service date, and I will be able to get reimbursed for the 4 low beam headlamp bulb replacements I've had in the last 5 years.  In addition, the AC isn't as good as in our Porsche.   

I realize that is just my experience, but Subies, at least in the US, have a reputation for having head gasket issues. 


Most people I know who have purchased a Ferrari, Aston, Lotus etc, didn't buy them for versatility.  They bought them to go on fun drives, carving up mountain roads, and enjoying them for what they are... a break from ordinary cars.  Sure they aren't practical for a trip to Home Depot for hauling lumber, or holding more groceries than an SUV, but they weren't designed for that. 

As for performance, its funny that considering how much you hate European cars, you measure your performance or fun by racing them.  "Yes, my $800 Subaru Spanked a Porsche Macan Turbo recently. icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif"

If all these European cars are such "Trash" then why bother to brag you raced one and beat it?  If you think these cars are so poorly built and have no performance...isn't that sort of a non-accomplishment?  


As a blanket statement, absolute nonsense.  


+1 .  People don't buy Porsches, BMWs, Ferraris, Astons etc with the idea that they are as inexpensive to own as a Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, or Toyota.  The cars cost more and therefore so do the parts.  Even in the world of Japanese cars if someone buys a Lexus LS400 or Nissan GTR, they can't expect the parts or labor will be the same cost as they are on a Toyota Camry.  

So it makes little sense for people to hold it against Porsche, BMW, or other luxury or sports car makers that the parts or service costs are higher.   No one needs a 2 seat sports car or a super expensive luxury car.  It's a choice people make.  Just because its wrong for Thrift Vader doesn't mean its wrong for other people.  


What does "intimately acquainted" mean?? It means replacing driveshafts, brakes, clutch adjusments, fabricating parts that are hard to find, transmission swaps that require the whole front end to be disassembled, custom wiring to rectify factory spaghetti wiring. . . It means i have had a variety of Euro cars up on a lift. As a service technician in a European used car dealership/garage.

If a european car is Carburetted? I am totally into it. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif - that includes Porsches and most def Fiats.

Pre 1990 Euro's float my boat. (Renault 4GTL, Renault 5, Alfa's, the big Benz's, the Bmw 2002's, and the list goes on . . . )
just when we are talking 1990's and up to 2001? Japan brought their A-game. You can't deny the slew of amazing cars to come out in that period. Less of a choice these days. So the value is going up on the good ones.


LS400?You mean the Toyota Celsior Ucf20/30? Standing next to one now. . Perhaps one of the cheapest cars to own and maintain available. Far superior to a Camry. In all aspects. And can be had for under 3k all day long. Lexus LS400 is the ultimate budget buy.

So, you have friends who buy expensive cars. Congrats. But i make plenty enough money to do the same.
-Especially at auction price, with no repair labour costs. wink.gif
My preferences are not based on price or income.
Sure, you paid more for you car, it must be better. Right? You are more than entitled to take that position.

Soon i will do the same. For the wife. She want's a new mini.(40 effing K???) So she can have a new mini. Meh. facepalm.gif

So you had some subies?

The wife and i both currently run Subies both turbo. My Gc8, and a 2001 GTB Twin turbo wagon. They have both been good to us. A bit fiddly at times to work on. But perfect daily's in winter.

I am entitled to my opinion on eurocars. Because it is an informed opinion. Feel free to throw money away and feel "premium". Imma keep it grass roots. nod[1].gif

As for my car? And the odd bit of fun seeing if it can keep up? I now have 5k in it. Plus about 8k in labour time. (Zero) and while it could be a lot better? It's hanging in there just fine. Was meant to be a daily while i build other cars. . . But we all know how that goes. lol8[1].gif
Edited by Thrift Vader - 8/23/16 at 5:25am
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Great to see @rtc is starting to feel the fever. The Jdm way to build cars. Props man. cheers.gif

And what if i told you, you could walk into a car lot. And buy a mid engined, rear wheel drive,Turbo'd Honda? lurker[1].gif
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Now now, no need for anyone to become elitist re: car makes.

I think we're all mature enough to appreciate and respect most brands for what they offer.
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335i vs E46 for daily?

looking at this http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ctd/5731920330.html
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Now now, no need for anyone to become elitist re: car makes.

I think we're all mature enough to appreciate and respect most brands for what they offer.

lulz - this entire forum is devoted to getting douche-nesss out. I should clarify I'm guilty as charged tongue.gif
Edited by ramuman - 8/23/16 at 7:51am
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lulz - this entire forum is devoted to getting douche-nesss out.

Getting the douche out? Are you implying this thrad is a metaphorical smelly vagina?

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Getting the douche out? Are you implying this thrad is a metaphorical smelly vagina?

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Haha - thanks for making my morning smile.gif
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