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post #24151 of 26360
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Now this all said, I'm planning a job change within the next couple months to a city where I won't need a car.

BUT I also love it so much that I may just keep it, too, and store it. It's hard to find a well-sorted coupe with manual and "low-ish" miles and not pay more than $20k.

Keep it for the weekends where the scarcity of driving it will make it even more enjoyable.
post #24152 of 26360
Bimmer is notorious for schizoid electrics as they age. GF TBH a gauge spike - if momentary in deadly heat - ain't nada to sweat (*pun intended). For instance, here's sumtin to aggravate you for realz w an aging E46..

I once drove back to Miami from Key West after a four dayer (imagine the level of hangover & exhaustion) and right at the start of the drive the car horn goes poltergeist on me: it's blaaaring. Continuously. I don't know if any of you have held your car horn down for 10+ consecutive mins on a busy highway, but the reaction it evokes in others is...unfriendly. So I'd eventually manage to deek off and park. Restart. Seem OK. Get back on. Then BRPPPPP.... LOL

A nuuuumber of start/stops, an interesting convo w a state trooper and finally -lightbulb- see if I can pull the fuse.
post #24153 of 26360
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

Bimmer is notorious for schizoid electrics as they age. GF TBH a gauge spike - if momentary in deadly heat - ain't nada to sweat (*pun intended). For instance, here's sumtin to aggravate you for realz w an aging E46..

I once drove back to Miami from Key West after a four dayer (imagine the level of hangover & exhaustion) and right at the start of the drive the car horn goes poltergeist on me: it's blaaaring. Continuously. I don't know if any of you have held your car horn down for 10+ consecutive mins on a busy highway, but the reaction it evokes in others is...unfriendly. So I'd eventually manage to deek off and park. Restart. Seem OK. Get back on. Then BRPPPPP.... LOL

A nuuuumber of start/stops, an interesting convo w a state trooper and finally -lightbulb- see if I can pull the fuse.

 

It's called character

post #24154 of 26360
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Now this all said, I'm planning a job change within the next couple months to a city where I won't need a car. I may end up selling it if so and therefore I question whether I should invest several thousand on it at this point in time.

BUT I also love it so much that I may just keep it, too, and store it. It's hard to find a well-sorted coupe with manual and "low-ish" miles and not pay more than $20k.

How long would you store it and where?  Cars can be stored for a modest period of time, but after a few years you will spending a lot of money having seals, gaskets, hoses, tires, timing belts (if it doesn't have chains), brake lines, and probably fuel lines replaced (if they are original).   As mentioned previously, my buddy is into more than $6K putting a 1990 Porsche 944S2 back on the road that was sitting in his garage for almost 10 years (and storage cost him nothing). I expect he could be up around $8K soon.  About 10 years ago, I spent almost $12K putting a car that sat in storage for 10 years on the road again.  

 

If you store the car for 5 years, and if you can get very cheap monthly storage lets say $100 a month that is $6,000 (if you have to spend more per month which you may have to, that figure can go up fast).  If you have a parent who can put it in a garage for free well that expense goes away.  Then throw insurance on top of that (even if you take off collision, and just keep what you need for fire and theft...figure maybe $3,000 to cover a few years (I don't know what you currently pay for insurance on an 03 M3).  Then parts and labor to put it back on the road (new tires, some hoses, gaskets, brake lines and fuel lines of they've never been replaced (as the car is an 03)...I'd bet with 5 years of storage+ insurance and service to make it road worthy again you spend around $12K-$15k.  

 

Maybe the wise idea is sell it, invest the money, and when you are ready to buy another car.  At that point you will have the funds from the car, plus what you didn't spend on storage and service to make it road worthy again, which could be enough to get something you'd really love that is newer with fewer miles.  But then again car guys often think with their hearts and if you love it maybe you would rather keep it.    


Edited by Dino944 - 8/12/16 at 10:56pm
post #24155 of 26360
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

I once drove back to Miami from Key West after a four dayer (imagine the level of hangover & exhaustion) and right at the start of the drive the car horn goes poltergeist on me: it's blaaaring. Continuously. I don't know if any of you have held your car horn down for 10+ consecutive mins on a busy highway, but the reaction it evokes in others is...unfriendly. So I'd eventually manage to deek off and park. Restart. Seem OK. Get back on. Then BRPPPPP.... LOL

Great story!!! I can't imagine how annoyed other drivers must have been with you, or how annoyed you must have been with the car!  LOL 

post #24156 of 26360
Guise!


Found another one. .




Looks to be a "version 4" sti type RA. - no rust.

Sent pics to wife. She was not amused.
Edited by Thrift Vader - 8/12/16 at 11:36pm
post #24157 of 26360
While i think the 944 could be a great proposition with a total budget of 4k. (Rtc has the means and hands to help)
I'm surprised that it was the talking point of my post. Really thought you guys would jump on the Audi S4, or the 2 door Bimmer. That S4 is entry level badassery that could replace his daily, and have fun times. the bmw coupe has "track day bro" written all over it. And the 240sx with hard stuff done?
Just a fun mix of cars in his neighborhood.
Edited by Thrift Vader - 8/12/16 at 11:35pm
post #24158 of 26360
@sir reveller.

I would have been under the front bumper with wire cutters in less than a minute.
post #24159 of 26360
I am sure the real wrenches would have acted faster. Although they'd have to be fed 90+ drinks in 96 hours with 15 of sleep and then we'd "observe" their alacrity.

Keep in mind "you'd be" stuck on a highway for at least 10mins before being able to exit, as well.
tongue.gif

It's more of just a lol anecdote as Dino discerned.
*although my point for GF remains too.
post #24160 of 26360
I had that happen to me in my 86 Jag. In traffic. I hopped out to pull the fuse but the same fuse controls the damn cooling fans (WTF Jaguar? As if the car wasn't prone to overheating in the best of times). I was pissed and did in fact clip the wires.
post #24161 of 26360
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Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post

While i think the 944 could be a great proposition with a total budget of 4k. (Rtc has the means and hands to help)
I'm surprised that it was the talking point of my post. Really thought you guys would jump on the Audi S4, ....
Just a fun mix of cars in his neighborhood.

The 944 is a cool car, but I think based on its condition (and the very uncertain needs), 4K just isn't enough of a budget to buy it and have something safe and reliable, where he isn't constantly throwing another $500-1,000 at it to keep it going.  If his budget were more like $6-7 he could actually have a 944 in far better condition that needs a lot less from the get go. 

 

I completely missed the S4.  Interesting option, although a friend of mine had 2 S4s, that one and the one after and he had a lot of serious engine issues with them.  Not sure how much more life a car like that has in it with that mileage.  I mostly hear of people getting out of them at far lower mileage due to various problems.  Still the car does look to be in pretty nice shape considering its age...and it would offer great performance with AWD that is perfect for New England.  I would say if RTC really liked that, he would need to check and find out when the timing belts were done.  In most cars when to change them is dependent upon both mileage and age.   The timing belts on Audis are a pricey job, if its too much work for RTC to do himself.  They have to take the entire front clip off to do that.  I have had neighbors and friends that owned Audi A4s and S4s who were astonished the job is around $1,600 (parts and labor).  So I wonder if the exhaust and whether it requires timing belts in the next year or so would put it out of RTCs budget.

post #24162 of 26360
Dino, I recall your comments about the R107 being preferable to a V12 R129 on $maintenance and saw a nice specimen the other day. While I still prefer the hard lines of the 129 - and still have serious reservations about a V8 that can't crack 250hp - I gave it a walk-around and, yeah, aesthetically I can see how some dudes would go with this:

post #24163 of 26360
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

Dino, I recall your comments about the R107 being preferable to a V12 R129 on $maintenance and saw a nice specimen the other day. While I still prefer the hard lines of the 129 - and still have serious reservations about a V8 that can't crack 250hp - I gave it a walk-around and, yeah, aesthetically I can see how some dudes would go with this:

 

The R107 isn't for everyone.  When you get into it you can tell its design dates back to the 70's, but that's also some of the fun about it.  With the most powerful engine offered in the US, making around 238hp (in a 560SL), I can see why it wouldn't sound as exciting as the V12 R129.   However, its a car from back in the days when a 1987 911 Carrera made 214hp, a 1988 BMW M6 made around 256 hp, a 944 Turbo S made 247 hp, the Ferrari 328 and Mondial 3.2 made 260hp, a 1989 Porsche 911 Turbo made 282 hp.  That's quite a list of cars that don't make impressive horsepower by today's standards.   

 

The 560SL was a boulevard cruiser, not a sports car, but it had enough grunt to get up and go.  The materials used and construction are also far higher in terms of quality than what went into the later 600SLs of the 1990s.  I kind of like them from a nostalgia point, and if getting older SL, that would be my choice.  Classy lines, modern enough to use and enjoy, not so insanely valuable that you can't take it anywhere and leave it alone, and great build quality.  I think the car in your photos could use a better choice of wheels (those later S class wheels are ugly), and if going for a 560SL...I like the 88 or 89 model year with the smaller less box like 3rd light on the trunk lid.  If you like it, now is the time to consider buying a good one.  Values on lower mileage models have been going up considerably in recent years.  Thanks for sharing a photo my friend.  Cheers! :cheers:

post #24164 of 26360
Great comments, thanks Dino. smile.gif stellar recap of the hp/torque vs era context one has to keep in mind as well.

There are certainly ones out there.
http://www.autotrader.ca/result/AdDetailInfo.aspx?srcID=19&frnID=9502006

Going '89 back now though = tough to find <100k klix. Then again in miles that's not too bad. I suppose maintenance history is even more important than a late90s 129 of course. A "Hammer" would be sick too tho I'm all about getting a 'vert if it's a car you store over winter.
post #24165 of 26360
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

Great comments, thanks Dino. smile.gif stellar recap of the hp/torque vs era context one has to keep in mind as well.

There are certainly ones out there.
http://www.autotrader.ca/result/AdDetailInfo.aspx?srcID=19&frnID=9502006

Going '89 back now though = tough to find <100k klix. Then again in miles that's not too bad. I suppose maintenance history is even more important than a late90s 129 of course. A "Hammer" would be sick too tho I'm all about getting a 'vert if it's a car you store over winter.

Thank you for your kind words.  Yes, sometimes its good to consider what was available at the time a certain car new.  The early 80s were a terrible time for sports cars coming off of gas shortages of the 1970s, and more smog equipment going into cars.  So by the mid 80s to have cars in the mid 200s or more was a huge step up forward in performance.  We are probably a bit spoiled today where we think anything under 350-400 hp is anemic.       

 

The other nice thing about the R107 cars is that parts are very easy to get and these are cars that someone can wrench themselves if they choose to.  There is actually a white on navy 560SL not that far from me with under 10,000 miles going for $60K (nearly its original MSRP).  Or if someone doesn't mind one in beige on beige, there is one with 36,000 miles for around $37,000.  Both have their window stickers, manuals, tools, and service records.  These are cars that one can drive forever (if taken care of), as they have build quality that we will probably never see again in a modern MB, BMW, Audi etc. 

 

We have to take care of my wife's daily driver situation, which will probably happen in the next 6-8 months.  However, once that is done, if she doesn't get a convertible as a daily (she misses having one for summer and spring) she might be tempted to look at a 560SL to putter around in during the spring/summer.  

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