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post #24091 of 26276
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Why do people continue to think if they're a cash buyer this will somehow yield an improved deal?

Because guaranteed deal and immediate closing. And they watch too much tv.
post #24092 of 26276
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Because guaranteed deal and immediate closing. And they watch too much tv.

For most car purchases being financed you can close same day. The last thing the dealership wants to do is let someone leave without the car they came to buy. And the type of people where financial approval is an issue usually are the same types ready to drive out the same day.
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Me: We're just starting the process, and this is our first day test driving cars.  There is no chance we are buying today.  We are probably a few months away.
*after test driving the car (and didn't really like it)*
Sales guy: What can I do to get you to buy this car today?
:foo:

post #24094 of 26276
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post
 

Me: We're just starting the process, and this is our first day test driving cars.  There is no chance we are buying today.  We are probably a few months away.
*after test driving the car (and didn't really like it)*
Sales guy: What can I do to get you to buy this car today?
:foo:

 

Reach around?

post #24095 of 26276
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Because guaranteed deal and immediate closing. And they watch too much tv.

For most car purchases being financed you can close same day. The last thing the dealership wants to do is let someone leave without the car they came to buy. And the type of people where financial approval is an issue usually are the same types ready to drive out the same day.

When we bought the wife's car we got a sitter (for the 2 yo) and went out testing.  Found one we liked and went to make the deal but it was late on a Saturday and the finance dept wouldnt process the purchase.  So we came back on Monday and the wife changed her mind and wanted less trim so the sales guy lost out as the car was about $3-4k cheaper.  He was a newb so I dont think he realized until after we drove away.

post #24096 of 26276
Ohai. Just checking in...

post #24097 of 26276
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Why do people continue to think if they're a cash buyer this will somehow yield an improved deal?

Pio- cmon baby. Even if they may do some cheesy financin w dumbies: cash in hand. Cash is king. Off the lot and fully booked.

They'll never have to offload the account to Jumpin' Mad Collections Agency.

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo_Man_(film))
post #24098 of 26276
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

Pio- cmon baby. Even if they may do some cheesy financin w dumbies: cash in hand. Cash is king. Off the lot and fully booked.

They'll never have to offload the account to Jumpin' Mad Collections Agency.


(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo_Man_(film))

The sales and finance guys at the dealership won't care about a repo, it's off their lot/books and in the finance company's hands at that point. At least that's how I understand it. Cash means nothing when it comes to negotiating with the dealership on price.
post #24099 of 26276
Well when I rolled into a small GM dealership for my Tahoe it titillated the salesman and helped me grind price til on his third return from the sales mgr's office I could hear the guy yelling.

Or maybe it was my snappy piano key necktie.
post #24100 of 26276
How do you guys with M/T cars park? Conventional wisdom told me that you always use the parking brake (duh) and to supplement that by putting it in gear: 1st if you're parked upwards and Reverse if parked downwards so you can counteract the pulling / pushing momentum with the opposing gear.

But recently I saw an explanation that the direction the car is facing shouldn't matter in regards to what gear to select -- that you should always the gear with the highest compression ratio. They said that it's the compression of the engine that would prevent the rolling of the car should the parking brake fail and to therefore always leave it in reverse since it has the highest compression ratio.

This is all kinda beyond my understanding but it does make sense to an extent. I've been leaving it in reverse ever since.. but it doesn't seem to be common knowledge. When I look online for the proper way to park a manual car, everyone just parrots the conventional parking brake + 1st or reverse depending on direction method.

Calling ramubrah (@ramuman)
post #24101 of 26276
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

How do you guys with M/T cars park? Conventional wisdom told me that you always use the parking brake (duh) and to supplement that by putting it in gear: 1st if you're parked upwards and Reverse if parked downwards so you can counteract the pulling / pushing momentum with the opposing gear.

But recently I saw an explanation that the direction the car is facing shouldn't matter in regards to what gear to select -- that you should always the gear with the highest compression ratio. They said that it's the compression of the engine that would prevent the rolling of the car should the parking brake fail and to therefore always leave it in reverse since it has the highest compression ratio.

This is all kinda beyond my understanding but it does make sense to an extent. I've been leaving it in reverse ever since.. but it doesn't seem to be common knowledge. When I look online for the proper way to park a manual car, everyone just parrots the conventional parking brake + 1st or reverse depending on direction method.

Calling ramubrah (@ramuman)

 

1st gear, almost never use the parking brake

post #24102 of 26276
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Originally Posted by otc View Post


+1 to that.

Although I am considering buying a costco membership, because they get some great rates on rental cars (but they don't do Hertz...and hertz is my preferrec company). Unfortunately, both my GF and I have been busted for trying to use someone else's costco account...so they appear to be cracking down and I'll have to get my own account.

In addition to often better prices, they give you additional drivers for free which can be a big savings depending on the company and duration. Between that and the discount, I think I saved $300 over the best I could get from Hertz the second to last time I used it (before I got called out on not having the card).

 

I tried to use my mother's account to by copious amounts of alcohol.  If you could see the look of pain on my face when they set it all aside

post #24103 of 26276
Parking brake, car in neutral. Been driving manuals for 20+ years.

Never had a parking brake fail, but witnessed other drivers forget the car was in gear or have their foot slip off the clutch. Thankfully no severe car damage or injury that I've seen but it could easily have happened
post #24104 of 26276
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Parking brake, car in neutral. Been driving manuals for 20+ years.

Never had a parking brake fail, but witnessed other drivers forget the car was in gear or have their foot slip off the clutch. Thankfully no severe car damage or injury that I've seen but it could easily have happened

I always do this too and just to be double sure, I always depress the clutch and make sure it's in neutral before starting any manual car. I hate when someone leaves the car in gear but doesn't use the handbrake... But it's easy to realize this and engage the brake(s) if necessary. A slow gravity roll is easier to deal with than a jerky motion in gear.
post #24105 of 26276
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Parking brake, car in neutral. Been driving manuals for 20+ years.

Never had a parking brake fail, but witnessed other drivers forget the car was in gear or have their foot slip off the clutch. Thankfully no severe car damage or injury that I've seen but it could easily have happened


+1, unless I park on a hill then its 3rd gear and parking brake. (or reverse if the nose is down the hill).
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