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My thoughts on the Joshua Brown accident are purely my thoughts speaking wit
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

I have a much more nuanced response that I never posted on this because I didn't want to make it a Tesla thread. I'm surprised it never popped up in this thread earlier. I'll post my thoughts in a bit over lunch.

I want to get a few things out of the way. I love Tesla and have a somewhat modest amount of equity in them and Elon's other companies. I also have friends at Tesla, so there is observational bias.

What happened to Josh Brown was unfortunate - but he was also not a Navy SEAL as some of the misinformed articles say - he simply worked with them.

To the counter, Tesla has always said Autopilot requires you to pay attention. It monitors how much you're holding the steering wheel and alerts you to keep your hands on the wheel depending on driving patterns. It also monitors as much as it can from ultrasonic parking sensors all the way to near infrared to visible wavelength. Every recent Model S shares this with the company - the amount of data they gather is simply incredible.

I know, for a fact, that internally, Tesla knows the exact velocity and nearly all circumstances of the accident happened - so that's all the sensors across all three dimensions versus time. The primary one being that Brown was doing roughly 30 mph over the speed limit (Tesla knows the exact number) with his hands not on the wheel.

Tesla did report it to NHTSA right away, but held the public in the dark - perhaps wrongly - because of the SolarCity offer.

I love cars and technology - the Model S is a technological marvel for everything it can do. It can only try so hard if you have a dumbass behind the wheel. Harry Potter DVD or not, the dude asked for this and a dipshit trucker cut him off. Both are to blame.

Tesla likely won't disclose the full telemetry so as to not blame Brown, but they should to show how much of a moron he was.

You can defeat a lot of safety features on modern cars. This guy defeated the most basic one - himself.
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Was Ben your date? Because if you spent all this time with him in the backseat, I'm gonna guess that the hay ride was completely unnecessary 😊

He was the one that could eventually figure out how to operate the passenger side window. He was one of my roommates in undergrad; we mostly just got wired on Mountain Dew and coded or played video games. Females in our circle confused us.
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The primary one being that Brown was doing roughly 30 mph over the speed limit (Tesla knows the exact number) with his hands not on the wheel.

So you can control the gas/breaks when auto-pilot is on? (I had assumed the car took full control) - article also says he was going 60 on a 55 road, not 85 - is the 85 from Tesla?

 

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Tesla did report it to NHTSA right away, but held the public in the dark - perhaps wrongly - because of the SolarCity offer.

 

Yeah... that seems shady, especially if safety is possibly involved.

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Sucks that Tesla has to deal with this fallout but they're essentially the autonomous driving tech Guinea pigs.

It's a thorny issue. Who really is at fault for any accidents that come out of users driving autonomously?
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Hitting the brakes or accelerator or going past the point of resistance on steering cancels autopilot. You can set autopilot to have an offset that's either absolute or relative to the posted speed limit. This guy had it set to the highest, which is 30 mph over the posted limit and wasn't holding the wheel.

Tesla can prove that beyond a doubt. They can't prove if he was jacking off to Emma Watson in Harry Potter.
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They need those transparent panels on the back like the Priuses have. That way everyone can tell if he's jacking off
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So you can jack off to guys jacking off?

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So you can jack off to guys jacking off?

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HRoi is a big timer. He has someone else do that for him.
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HRoi is a big timer. He has someone else do that for him.

Oh I bet you know that someone does that for him. Does that person's name rhyme with shabufan by any chance?
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Oh I bet you know that someone does that for him. Does that person's name rhyme with shabufan by any chance?
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It looks pretty solid. If the checkout is kosher, go for it.

With used/out of warranty cars people, sometimes, tend to get into a race to the bottom and regret it later. Find a good mechanic and roll with his rec. You're a smart guy so you trust yourself for the ultimate judgement.

 

Yeah, guy claimed that he never got the title put into his name because the RMV was making him pay the NADA value instead of the actual price he paid. Sounded sketchy, but he said that he wasn't going to be able to do the exchange right away either, so I figured I'd meet up with him and see what was what. I'm obviously not going to turn the title over or pay him to get his title so we'll see what happens.


Car is a bit high mileage for my liking, but condition trumps all. It's the engine I want as well so we'll see.

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snork[1].gif Have fun with that.





Also, i found a Speedster. peepwall[1].gif
No pics. Told it has been sitting for years. outside a garage. Dude never had the time for it.dozingoff.gif
Edited by Thrift Vader - 7/12/16 at 6:22pm
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Decided to add a 500E to the stable ASAP and to put the g wagon a few months back in the timeline. The hunt is on!
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Yeah, guy claimed that he never got the title put into his name because the RMV was making him pay the NADA value instead of the actual price he paid. Sounded sketchy, but he said that he wasn't going to be able to do the exchange right away either, so I figured I'd meet up with him and see what was what. I'm obviously not going to turn the title over or pay him to get his title so we'll see what happens.


Car is a bit high mileage for my liking, but condition trumps all. It's the engine I want as well so we'll see.

Mileage is fine because you can find basically all replacement parts quite easily.
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snork[1].gif Have fun with that.





Also, i found a Speedster. peepwall[1].gif
No pics. Told it has been sitting for years. outside a garage. Dude never had the time for it.dozingoff.gif
Um...a 911 speedster??!?!
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