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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

Looks to be in great condition. Enjoy in good health. I love the classic SLs - truly have withstood the test of time.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Thanks! The search was a bit long, but this one seemed right. The prior owner maintained it without regard to cost through the original dealer for its entire life. So far all I've needed to do was to replace a few seal washers for the top locks and one footwell light. Could do with a waxing if the weather ever becomes tolerable here.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

I believe its a modded Nissan 240SX. 
Congrats!  Nice boulevard cruiser.  I got to drive one many years ago, when they were still new.  They have that vault like solidity that seemed to be missing from some MBs that were built in the late 90s early 2000s.  

I couldn't agree more. My 2013 sl550 got back some of that heft, but my former 2007 was tinny in comparison. Fortunately the G class still has that Heft. I think a '94 500E is the next choice for me though.
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Cornering felt fine for a large sedan but he wasn't pushing it by any means.  It was an enjoyable ride but from some of the comments about the car I was expecting it to feel cheap inside but it was nice.  I big screen is obnoxious though.


I didn't ask a bunch of questions but it was pretty standard, no ludicrous mode.  

I didn't mean to be rude. The full set of 0-60 times are available online. The 85 and 90 models come in various configurations. Also there is standard, insane and ludacrous modes available on various configurations of the 85, P85, P85+, P85D, 90D and P90D, so I was just curious.

In any case, any Tesla ever made down to the base 60 would kill a Leaf. The Leaf probably feels like it pulls hard off the line to most people though, but there's no point in comparing Apples and oranges. There are also plenty of ICE cars under 50k that also pull much harder than a Leaf.

I guess my point is this always comes up online and there are lots of comparo videos. The P90D ludy would also get descimated on a track by some cars costing half as much.
Edited by ramuman - 7/10/16 at 2:16pm
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I again want to applaud GF for discovering the joys of tracking. It'll become addictive and you'll be going through tires pretty quickly. The much more positive upside is learning from people more talented than yourself, meeting nice people, driving far more technical roads than gunning it stop light to stop light or on canyon roads, and most importantly doing it in as safe an environment as possible.

I'm perfectly fine with having a tiny bit of fun on public roads, but putting yourself and others in harms way is stupid no matter how good one thinks they are.

As an aside the boys and I are doing another euro delivery next summer. If anyone is interested in joining, PM me. The more the merrier. Our last ED was epic and this won't let down. Even if you don't plan on getting a car, you're welcome.
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Originally Posted by Monty L View Post

Thanks! The search was a bit long, but this one seemed right. The prior owner maintained it without regard to cost through the original dealer for its entire life. So far all I've needed to do was to replace a few seal washers for the top locks and one footwell light. Could do with a waxing if the weather ever becomes tolerable here.

I had an '89 560SL for a few years. I got it when it was about 12 years old. Even then, when I would take it in for smog, the engine was so tight it blew a zero on several emissions measurements. It was a fun car and a great cruiser, but I needed a back seat so I sold it and bought my ZHP convertible, which I still have.
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I had an '89 560SL for a few years. I got it when it was about 12 years old. Even then, when I would take it in for smog, the engine was so tight it blew a zero on several emissions measurements. It was a fun car and a great cruiser, but I needed a back seat so I sold it and bought my ZHP convertible, which I still have.

Nice choices. I always laugh at the futility of the kinder seat in this sl, though the extra leather is a nice touch.
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Nice choices. I always laugh at the futility of the kinder seat in this sl, though the extra leather is a nice touch.

Yup. I just got tired of driving around by myself, so the SL had to go.
post #23273 of 26291
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

I again want to applaud GF for discovering the joys of tracking. It'll become addictive and you'll be going through tires pretty quickly. The much more positive upside is learning from people more talented than yourself, meeting nice people, driving far more technical roads than gunning it stop light to stop light or on canyon roads, and most importantly doing it in as safe an environment as possible.

I'm perfectly fine with having a tiny bit of fun on public roads, but putting yourself and others in harms way is stupid no matter how good one thinks they are.


I agree 100% with this. There is a time and place. Driving like a fool in populated areas is a dum dum move.

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And 100000000% to the respect for the professionals. Riding in the car alongside the instructor was a monumentally humbling experience (as much fun as it was). There were two other folks in the car alongside with me (it was the M3) and the first 30 seconds, I was going like "OH SHIT!" "HOLY SHIT!" "THIS IS AWESOME!" while the other two were silent -- they had had track experience before. After, I settled down I shat the fuck up and enjoyed the lap, but damn -- I had never experienced anything like that.

The biggest surprise factor was the brakes -- he braked so hard, so fast, and so LATE into the corner that I lurched forward as if the car had shifted earth's gravitational pull. It was like going 90 MPH to 35 in the span of 1.5 seconds it seemed. Loads of fun.

I enjoyed the lap with our instructor especially because he was oversteering all over the place to have some fun with us.

Honestly though, I'd be scared as hell tracking my car. I feel like something(s) would break after a couple laps. That, plus the huge wear and tear it has on tires and brakes? Not a cheap hobby, at all. I can see why people have cheap cars as dedicated track cars.

That, or just be loaded.


Riding with a pro is awesome! The vast majority of time when people talk about driving fast, they usually mean flexing their right foot until the next intersection comes up. They have absolutely zero idea of what driving fast really is, until they are in the passenger seat of a pro driver on a racetrack. Now imagine having a pro in the passenger seat, coaching you via a headset, helping you develop your skills. It's incredible! 

 

Tracking a car with cheap consumables is the way to go for most people. When I go through a set of tires in 4-5 days and (front) brakes in 8 days (w/endurance racing pads), the cost skyrockets. What was mentioned earlier about how physically and mentally exhausting tracking is, is very true. Later this year, I'll be going on a five day track trip - all five days in a row, driving 2.5-3.5 hours each day. I'm calling it the IronMan Track Day session for a reason. lol! I've done four days in a row, but never five. We'll see how it goes.

The other point you made about being afraid of something breaking in your car is very real. Talk to track guys and see how long their cars last. Full props to Porsche in this category. Of all the sports car manufacturers, they not only build fast cars, but they really know how to build track cars. Their GT cars are amazing. Given what you know now, remember that I have over 70 track days on my 996 GT3 - with no breakdowns on the track at all! Never. I maintain it, replace fluids each year, along with consumables as required. The engine has never been rebuilt. It's still running strong. They know what they are doing, and I really appreciate it now that I'm actively tracking.

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@Al, porsche make an amazing product. No doubt there. They are a drivers car, ready to go. If you can afford it, it's the best way to start. smile.gif

Just wish Subaru kept making the GC8 and made it better and better. . . . A well balanced, flat 4, manual, all wheel drive ? Good formula. Glad Porsche stuck to their formula.


Noticed a few tiny digs at the street racing scene. lol8[1].gif
It is a far cry from the movies. Reckless drivers are frowned on. We don't race drag cars on the street, we don't have bikini girls and cinematography. Or neons and a hip soundtrack.

Mostly local Wrenches, and blue collar guys. either letting off steam, or testing new mods. Being mindfull of where and when. Choosing when to pop the cork. We got the Wangan, for the speed lovers, the rice fields/mountains for handling. And early morning empty streets for stop lighting to the speed limit and backing off when you hit it first.

No need to drive too fast, or endanger your car, and other people. Take a careful, balanced and legal approach to enjoying your car.

We test on the street, so we can be confident when we take our cars to mix with the big boys.

A balanced street car can hang. You track guys know what kind i mean. All meat, no rice.
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So what I'm hearing is that GF should buy a miata track car to keep wear and tear off his daily.

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Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post

Noticed a few tiny digs at the street racing scene. lol8[1].gif
It is a far cry from the movies. Reckless drivers are frowned on. We don't race drag cars on the street, we don't have bikini girls .....

No bikini girls? Bummer. ;)

 

I wasn't even thinking there was a "real" street racing scene. lol! I had two particular cases in mind when I wrote what I did: one was a teenager who clearly has zero idea of what driving skill is, but he has a friend with rich parents and who gave their 16-yr old a fast car. I don't know if that kid will be living in a couple years.

The other case is on the 'net, where a guy has a C63 AMG and thinks it's the fastest car ever, and he drives that automatic trans car around the city with driving gloves and designer racing shoes. He has no clue. lol!

post #23279 of 26291
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

So what I'm hearing is that GF should buy a miata track car to keep wear and tear off his daily.

 

If you're going to dive into tracking, yes, keep a separate daily driver. Keeps the issue about crashing the car, or breaking it, or modding it so it thrives on the track and sucks for the street, away from your daily commute.

 

Occasional tracking? Use your daily and keep your head bolted on straight. Have fun!

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@GreenFrog I would definitely get a cheap track car. Michelin PSSs aren't cheap and neither are any number of other consumables as has been noted above.
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