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HRoi

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A couple things:

I don't put too much stock in the jalopnik claim either. But if that's likely to be bullshit, then every M4 fact mentioned should be viewed with the same skepticism unless you guys are getting this from BMW. The dangers of arguing over vaporware.

Second, the performance underrating is not relevant when comparing M3's. Because if 424 hp is likely underrated in the F30, then it's likely to be a wash because the E90 would have also been underrated in a similar manner.

I'm likely not going to be an M3 buyer in my next go-around, but I am curious about what they do with this one. Especially since all the reviewers seem to hate the new M5/M6
 

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i have a neighbor that has interesting cars in his driveway often.

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I've seen a couple R8s, and other large expensive sedans. I just moved in a couple of months ago so I was embarrassed but eventually asked him about the awesome cars, and he's a professional detailer, he's a nice guy.
 

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Jay Z's ride?

The really scary thing is the number of hits Google image search gets on "chrome bentley continental".
 

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I don't care if Jay Z owns that car, those wheels look awful. And a chrome car....too much auto sprez
 

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Get the RS5 instead. The S5 doesn't hold a candle to the first 3 cars on your list. It feels more like a 335i competitor to me tbh.

And if you're able to go with Audi S/RS, M's, AMG or CtSV, don't know why you would even consider the Lexus or the pony cars


I'd love RS5 but budget is $40-50k. I need a backseat for 2kids and want to be able to track it 1-2 times a year.
 

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I checked your horoscope and it said C T S V
 

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Anybody interested in the new Alfa Romeo 4C? The reviews are hitting the net. I thought they were gonna price it high but it is coming in at $54K. Sweet price. Except, they shift back the launch until Q2 of 2014 here in the USA. I am seriously thinking of putting a deposit on one.
I'm concerned about the lack of boot and no glove-box. It is as spartan as you can get (thinking Lotus Elise). I don't mind the DCT ****** so much because it will be a commuter.

I also know it will be compared to the Cayman/Cayman S but there is something about those Italian curves. $54K is a darn good price. The porsche is probably better no doubt.
 

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Looks cool, but as a DD I would go with the Cayman.
 

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But the jalopnik article also says 0-60 in low fours. I understand this is all speculation, and there are better performance indicators than 0-60, but low fours? Current DCT m3's are already testing out faster than that


0-60 is all about traction and low-end torque. Power affects your top speed the most.

4C looks cool, and an all-carbon tub is really something else, but $86k for a 4-banger?
 

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The 4C concept had much better headlights than the production.

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I seriously can't stand these headlights...

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I seriously hope someone makes OEM looking aftermarket lights for it.

I'd love RS5 but budget is $40-50k. I need a backseat for 2kids and want to be able to track it 1-2 times a year.



I checked your horoscope and it said C T S V


CTS-V "Vagon" sport wagon! Seriously quick wagon for half the price of an RS6 and you can still get it with 3 pedals!
 
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I don't care if Jay Z owns that car, those wheels look awful. And a chrome car....too much auto sprez


Having seen one chrome car on the road- I won't be surprised when they are banned. The sun hits it just right and it's like a million laser pointers hitting your eye.
 

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Those new Fiats. Now I know a poster here I quite admire has one, and that one or two of you have driven them, but gawd damn I have nearly rear ended about 10 of these slow F***ers in the last few weeks.
 

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Those new Fiats. Now I know a poster here I quite admire has one, and that one or two of you have driven them, but gawd damn I have nearly rear ended about 10 of these slow F***ers in the last few weeks.


My 5 year old dragged race in his Peg Perego against one. He lost, but it was close.
 

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Those new Fiats. Now I know a poster here I quite admire has one, and that one or two of you have driven them, but gawd damn I have nearly rear ended about 10 of these slow F***ers in the last few weeks.


The Abarths are faster than most cars on the road.

Am I the only person in the universe who thinks the new 4C is hideous, even overlooking the extra-hideous production headlights? Too many intersecting, confused lines and curves breaking into each other.

The last iteration of the Lotus Elise was much prettier, and served pretty much exactly the same function for what looks to be 30-40% less than what they're going to charge for the 4C. The 4C's carbon fiber chassis is impressive, but you save more weight much more cheaply by cutting out unnecessary luxuries and features. A car like the 4C will never be a luxurious grand tourer, so why bother trying?
 
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I'd totally buy the Fiat if I had a need for a car. It was a blast to drive.
 

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