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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

I want an sti frown.gif

for the money an Evo is the better deal
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post


Get on Tinder and don't use a condom.

 

lulz

 

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Sexually transmitted intercourse? frown.gif

 

Haha, dang you're old.

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Zing

 

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Originally Posted by gong View Post


for the money an Evo is the better deal

 

Is that even close to being true. Thought the evo's had crap reliability etc.

 

I think a supercharged Juke would be hilarious too. Did anyone see the bit where Nissan did a Juke-R using innards from the GTR?

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

What are the big maintenance windows on cars like that and what could you reasonably expect to put in for the car if you own it for say... 3-5 years.

 

My calibration is all sorts of farked up given that I paid 2500 for an 02 impreza with 130k miles on it and ended up needing to do the head gasket, radiator, alternator, catalytic converter, O2 sensor, and a rear wheel bearing all in the first year of ownership. I expected the head gasket at some point and knew about the cat prior to purchase, but apparently there was some sort of valving issue that was causing a bit of a fuel leakage etc that caused the cat to go which the previous owner didn't know about.

 

That said, for what I have in it (7-8k total) there's probably nothing better I could have bought and since most of the stuff I did can go on any used car, it's nice knowing that it's all been done by someone I trust during my ownership. That's given me a rather warped sense of everything else though. It's like, if a car like this cost so much wtf would have happened if I'd found a 'good deal' on a used audi or bwm with 100k-ish miles.

you would need to consult the dark side first.  you know this to be true.

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post
 

Well the 993 is the last of the air cooled 911s.  Its also the last of the 911s, before they started growing significantly in size to add more space for the basically useless for anything other than storage back seats.  Its also the last of the 911s (with the exception of modern GT3 and GT3RS models) that were more sports car than GT car.  

 

As for HP, it was 270 in the first year models, then 282 for the remaining production years.  However, with 20 year old cars its not about all out performance by today's standards, its about how much fun you have with the car.  It was a quick car in its day, but even 1990s Ferraris and Lamborghinis are not that fast by today's standards.  If someone wants a quicker car for a hell of a lot less money just by a Subaru WRX STi. 

 

993. blah blah......... not you, just the community in general.  same crap. 996 is a better car, and a better deal.  if you want high maintenance costs? buy euro, if you want fast? buy Japanese.

 

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I'm biting my tongue.
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Don't it hurts and you will end up talking with a lisp.
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Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post

 

993. blah blah......... not you, just the community in general.  same crap. 996 is a better car, and a better deal.   if you want high maintenance costs? buy euro, if you want fast? buy Japanese

Sorry, but I hope you are joking.  As much as I like Porsches, the 996 was junk.  Lower quality interiors, buttons that get sticky from exposure to sun, basically sharing front end with Boxsters so from the front it looks like a Boxster not a 911, rear main seal leaks, and even more worrisome... IMS failures that caused engines to grenade (although you can get IMS aftermarket solutions for a few grand to hopefully avoid blowing up the engine).  They are a bargain because most people don't want them.  The bargain if one can tolerate the Boxsterish front and junky interiors is the 996 Turbo which doesn't have the same engine design, so there is no IMS issue to blow up the engine, and it is a great performer.    

 

Yes, one can buy a modern STi for less than most high end 20 year old or older collector cars, and the STi will be faster.   But not everyone wants a Japanese performance car, and there is something about having a vintage sports car, especially if it was once someone's dream car that make modern performance levels less relevant.  I doubt anyone buying a 1972 BMW 3.0 CSL, a 1976 930 Turbo Carrera, or Dino 246 GT, would care that an STi or GTR is quicker and cheaper to own.  The overall driving experience of cars, even those with similar levels of performance drive can be so different that the vehicle with the quickest 0-60 or 1/4 mile may not be the one someone would choose to own. 

 

The factors of faster and less expensive are certainly important to many people.  However, they aren't the end all be all in purchasing a fun car.  If someone has the means to buy and maintain a Euro or Japanese car, then they should buy the one that puts the biggest smile on their face. 

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

lulz


Haha, dang you're old.
Zing


Is that even close to being true. Thought the evo's had crap reliability etc.

I think a supercharged Juke would be hilarious too. Did anyone see the bit where Nissan did a Juke-R using innards from the GTR?

can't think of any real issues Evos have that aren't directly linked to abuse. the STi has an infinitely stronger transmission but that's about it, with 2-3k invested in an Evo you're firmly in the 400whp range (reliably).
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This is what the Evo/STi drivetrain comparison looks like.

Engine tolerance:
Evo >>>> STi

Trans tolerance:
STi 6 speed/Evo 5 speed>>> Evo 6 speed/Base WRX 5 speed

Evo 9 all day if I were in the market for any of them.
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My dentist friend just picked up a 991 Turbo S. What an insane car.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

 

Yes, one can buy a modern STi for less than most high end 20 year old or older collector cars, and the STi will be faster.   But not everyone wants a Japanese performance car, and there is something about having a vintage sports car, especially if it was once someone's dream car that make modern performance levels less relevant.  I doubt anyone buying a 1972 BMW 3.0 CSL, a 1976 930 Turbo Carrera, or Dino 246 GT, would care that an STi or GTR is quicker and cheaper to own.  The overall driving experience of cars, even those with similar levels of performance drive can be so different that the vehicle with the quickest 0-60 or 1/4 mile may not be the one someone would choose to own. 

I dont know what you're arguing, in the first sentence you agree with him, and then you start arguing about something no one was talking about...

 

He said 

Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post
 

 if you want fast? buy Japanese.

He never said Japanese are everyone's dream cars, or have better driving experiences, etc. He said fast.

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TBH, buy American if you just want fast. Nothing imported touches the ready-to-wear price/hp ratio like vettes, camaros, and mustangs.
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True. Gotta hope you only drive in straight lines though.
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Corvette can turn just fine
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Orange m3 sitting next to me has so much orange peel it actually looks like an orange frown.gif
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