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post #21616 of 26351
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I'm going to guess it's about the same. AMG really commands a premium from what I've seen.

I have to say if I came across something like that I might be tempted...which is why I don't go looking. I actually clicked on a Jag ad off the BBC site the other day.
Automotive impulse purchases are the best. They're not so good when you end up overextending yourself financially, but I'll assume this isn't an issue since SF members are all ballers.

While at the dealership last night I saw that they had an absolutely pristine John Cooper Works Mini that someone had traded in - this is a car I've driven extensively in the past and have loved as a change of pace and the classic fun car that's not too fast to have fun in. It isn't worth the $35-40k they were selling it for while new, but for $23-25k for something still under warranty? Tempting.
post #21617 of 26351
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Automotive impulse purchases are the best.

Yeah, that's so not me.
post #21618 of 26351
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Are AMG repair costs more than BMW or Porsche, though? I get that other people overextend themselves because they don't think it through, but what about a BMW or Porsche owner who's already at $3k for a brake job? Because their purchase cost for a 2 year old M or P car is much higher

Somethingwitty was pretty accurate (about many used car buyers underestimating parts costs).  However, some of it also comes down to reliability, driving style, and deferred maintenance.  Porsche and BMW have done well in terms of reliability ratings in recent years.  I saw a news blurb about a month ago saying the top 5 car brands in terms of reliability are (not sure about the order) BMW, Porsche, Lexus, Subaru, and Audi.  On the other hand an article I read a few years ago said the most costly luxury vehicle to own long term was a SL500 (although, I'm guessing they were not including exotics in that research).  I have heard AMG cars expenses exceed that of regular Mercedes versions, I don't know how they stack up against M series cars or Porsches. However, its possible that those buying AMG cars ( M series cars or Porsches) may experience greater expenses, and sooner brake/tire replacement and other components based on a more aggressive style of driving than someone with a more basic MB or BMW.   I imagine the 1st and 2nd owner are OK with AMG repairs and maintenance... but by the time these cars are $40K or less, how much deferred maintenance is the next owner looking at and do some of these deferred issues lead to other expenses later. 

post #21619 of 26351
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

While at the dealership last night I saw that they had an absolutely pristine John Cooper Works Mini that someone had traded in - this is a car I've driven extensively in the past and have loved as a change of pace and the classic fun car that's not too fast to have fun in. It isn't worth the $35-40k they were selling it for while new, but for $23-25k for something still under warranty? Tempting.

A friend of mine had a John Cooper Works Mini that he bought new and got rid of after 2 years.  He thought it would be a fun commuter car and something he wouldn't worry about too much in terms of parking.  He said it was fun in the beginning, but for longer drives not all that enjoyable and he tired of it quickly.  His current stable consist of a 2014 Cayenne S, an Audi TTRS, and an Audi Q3 (for the wife).

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I find the average Mini driver to be an annoying special flower that is overly proud of their little vehicle. I've met some cool Mini drivers but the average buyer is a unique snowflake.
post #21621 of 26351
Well I drove it again last night 😅

It was a blast. It was raining and I got it sliding and torque steering all over the place, but the little thing hung on and inspires a ton of confidence. Much easier to heel-and-toe downshift than the GT3. All that fun at speeds < 50 mph too, which is not something I can say with my other cars
post #21622 of 26351
That's completely contrary to my experience. I know a lot of mini drivers take pride in ownership of their cars because they're fun and sporty. But I don't think many of them take it to the point of being elitist and snobby about it.
post #21623 of 26351
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I find the average Mini driver to be an annoying special flower that is overly proud of their little vehicle. I've met some cool Mini drivers but the average buyer is a unique snowflake.

I almost brought a grown man to tears in one once, I had just done 220kph in a 540i, when I drove him back I drove the mini like you should. shog[1].gif
post #21624 of 26351
Ah-- not a dry seat in the house, eh?
post #21625 of 26351
Oh I bet FF drove his passenger's mini to "tears"

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The reason I saw that SL65 is because one of my coworkers was lusting over it.  My reaction was it is ugly, and I can't imagine the repair costs.

He bought a 2012 Jaguar XKR, which I'll be honest: I like how it looks.  In fact, a lot of the new Jags look pretty good in my n00b opinion.

post #21627 of 26351
I don't feel for most Jag designs. The only one I find appealing is the F Type.
post #21628 of 26351
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Originally Posted by SomethingWitty View Post

The thing most people don't realize is that parts prices are commensurate to the original cost of the car; the brakes on that CL65 aren't priced like they're for a $28k car, but like the $200k car it was when new. 

This is the kind of thing that I saw yesterday when I was peeking at some articles/forum posts that were comparing 944s to Corrados.

They may have all depreciated to the point where the porsche is often cheaper than the VW, but you are still buying parts for a car that sold for 2x the price of the other (which may also factor in to why, outside of the stunning examples, most 944s cost less than the corrados I was seeing).
post #21629 of 26351
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

I don't feel for most Jag designs. The only one I find appealing is the F Type.

An XJ sedan still catches my eye, much moreso that the S / A / 7 alternatives... 

 

I feel the XK is getting long in the tooth and Jag is trying too hard to tweek a design that's a little tired. 

 

Not feeling the new mid-size sedan.

 

From what I've seen, I do like the F Pace, but it still has me confused... when the first images surfaced, I got it in my head that it was the size of a Q7 and I still that that's the size it should be... Need to see one in person to assess the Q5-ish size. 

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Ah-- not a dry seat in the house, eh?

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