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post #21511 of 26274
Piob,

That is true, however having had the MB and currently the Grand Cherokee, I will say that after two months of ownership, I still haven't mastered the Chrysler shifter. The MB one was a wand on the steering column that was intuitive, while the Jeep one is on the console and counter intuitive. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a big recall over this, although not sure what they can really do. Might still be kicking myself for not grabbing a Q5 instead of the Jeep.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Just watched the evening news. Apparently Jeep Cherokees, and possibly some other Chrysler product, have an electronic shift mechanism like what one finds on Mercedes (makes sense for some shared tech between them). Well, some of the owners are suing because you don't get the mechanical "clunk" of an older style transmission.

So, I guess Mercedes drivers really are superior to Chrysler drivers? confused.gif
post #21512 of 26274
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Haven't seen one in person yet but it does look odd due to the lack of a grill. It just looks strange -- not in a repulsive way. Just strange.

I haven't seen the X in person, but from photos, I feel like I'm looking at a Prius with some Tesla styling cues. 

 

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Btw, how many Tesla drivers actually floor their cars? I feel like acceleration is one of the key selling points of electric and yet I never see Teslas zipping down on ramps or off dead stops. I do see that with other high performance cars (being driven hard). Maybe it's just that it has the ability but most Tesla drivers aren't really that kind of driver.

Agreed.  I've never seen a Tesla on the road that was being pushed hard.   At least in my area, a lot of the Tesla owners seem to be older family guys, so maybe their days of seeing what their cars can really do are behind them.  

post #21513 of 26274
I have no idea how it looks anything like a Prius. I will set a few things straight.

The S and X look as positively boring as they do because Elon and Franz designed it that way for aerodynamics and safety - the S is the safest car ever made and the X is the safest SUV made, yet even the X has a coefficient of drag multiplied by the frontal cross section that's better than a Prius.

Most Tesla owners tend to be older well off white guys with an aversion to risk. I'm guessing they had a Roth IRA when they were 16.

Both were designed by a pure physics guy and engineering guy. There are gonna be definite quirks that most people won't get. When you floor the P85D or P90D, it puts down roughly the electrical power used by 450 houses. There are tons of ICE cars that are faster and more theatrical. It's the obsession to detail. Elon worked obsessively on the contactor - something the size of a postage stamp that controls current - a part I doubt even most electrical engineers know about.

This is the Tesla's charging port - which does 160 kW:



...and this is the Leaf's - which does 8 kW



The devil is in the details.

They're also by no means perfect.
post #21514 of 26274
I don't think the S looks boring. It's not as nice as an RS7 or M6GC, but it's better aesthetically than the M5, Panamera and E class.

The X, however, looks terrible. yMMV of course
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

I have no idea how it looks anything like a Prius. I will set a few things straight.

 

I think you are taking my words a bit too literally.  I didn't say they look the same, I said I feel like I'm looking at a prius with Tesla styling cues.   The X is bigger, more rounded, and has Tesla themes, but both have a sort of ugly armadillo shape.  

post #21516 of 26274
No doubt LA and oc will be filled with dirtbags driving these around like the early adopting sheep they are, no different than apple fanbois.
post #21517 of 26274
...and making the HOV lanes even more crowded than the normal lanes lol8[1].gif
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I don't think the S looks boring. It's not as nice as an RS7 or M6GC, but it's better aesthetically than the M5, Panamera and E class.

The X, however, looks terrible. yMMV of course

The Rs7 and M6GC are also insanely pretty cars, so it's not really fair comparing them to "normal" cars.
post #21519 of 26274
Man jet is knocking it out of the park.
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Everyone I know with an MDX loves them and racks up 300,000 miles or more easily without maintenance issues.

 

My ex-wife has had 2 MDXs.  First one was a lemon and went back and replaced it with a 2009 (I believe).  She still drives it everyday and AFAIK it has given her zero problems.

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You all can have your future with self driving cars. I'll be the Will Smith character in I Robot who mistrusts all machines and hoards his ancient internal combustion vehicles in a secret garage

 

And ride a MV Agusta F4

 

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And ride a MV Agusta F4

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Was gonna look for porn to jack off to. No need after that pic.
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No doubt LA and oc will be filled with dirtbags driving these around like the early adopting sheep they are, no different than apple fanbois.

I'm sure you're really original with your Android phone.
post #21524 of 26274
I see the new Lincoln Navigator will have gull wing doors. A new trend in SUVs?
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I see the new Lincoln Navigator will have gull wing doors. A new trend in SUVs?

Please no
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