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post #2131 of 26360
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Originally Posted by BrianVarick View Post
^Is that real? The M7 I mean.

NO.
post #2132 of 26360
^ they really should just go ahead and make an M7 now, though. One would think they would've made an M7 before the X5/6M, anyway, and they've got the M car formula down now so well that making one would be as easy as anything else.
post #2133 of 26360
No need for an M7 when Alpina B7's are available....
post #2134 of 26360
The B7 is nice as fuck, and I've seen the F01 Alpina in person, but isn't as powerful or as aggressive looking as I'd expect an M7 to be, tbh. I'd expect an M7 to be at least 600hp, if not 650hp, and enough torque to swish it around town. Logically, that'd be a direct injection V12TT with twin scroll turbos on each bank, i.e. two N55's mated at the crank for about 6 liters - a recipe BMW has always basically followed when making V12's. It'd need forged 21"+ wheels, a bespoke M aero and maybe fender treatment, M'ing of the interior, everything that would make it look like a $150-200,000 BMW should. It'd sell well, I think. Those AMG S-class cars are really popular, I always see a bunch around here.
post #2135 of 26360
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post
^ they really should just go ahead and make an M7 now, though.

Agreed. The argument against was always that the 7-series didn't have the "sporting nature" required by the M division, but once they sold out with the X5 and X6, there was no reason not to. What's stopping them now is likely your second post on the subject - the V8 turbo isn't enough for the 7-series when they'e already got a powerful 12-cylinder, and the market for the car isn't big enough to justify developing a turbo V12. The cost for AMG is offset by the fact Mercedes-Benz uses their AMG engines across the entire range (isn't there a 63 of everything now?); BMW has no other car to use a turbo V12 in. They don't use that engine in the 5 or 6 series.
post #2136 of 26360
^ that is a valid point too, although they've got a couple of the AMG '63' series motors out - the one that goes in the C63 is an NA V8 and sounds sick, hands down one of the best German motors on the road lately, but I was in a new SL63 the other night that was also great, but it was a S/C'ed 5.5L I believe. Anyway, AMG has the one size fits all thing, BMW M does bespoke treatments, true, different methodology, to get to what are seemingly more similar places than ever before. Obviously, making a bespoke engine isn't an overnight thing, but they do have to make the 7-series anyway, and BMW is no stranger to making bespoke power units. They even have the (albeit very small) side business of selling engines to cottage sports car houses, like Wiesmann. The same way AMG supplies Pagani, I think they could sell a 650-700hp V12 to a boutique supercar maker and maybe offset a bit of the cost, even. Counter-argument: If they can make a niche car like the 1M with plans to only make <3000 units a year, and knowing they've spent more than few years R+D'ing it, why shouldn't/wouldn't they make an M7, being that it could be only just as much work if they found something usable amongst the numerous V12's BMW currently makes (including the RR line) or a V12 variant on the V8TT they make now? It'd do well.
post #2137 of 26360
04 Civic Si
post #2138 of 26360
I broke down and bought a modern car for my 2 hour per day commute. It's quite nice. Adequate speed and very comfortable on the highway. The engine is from the future (for me at least). Quad cam 32 valve 10:1 all alloy V8 with magnesium valve covers. I've got a 3 spoke euro M3 wheel on order, and the wheels will be jettisoned soon.
post #2139 of 26360
very nice! the 8 series has so much character
post #2140 of 26360
Should have got the csi.

Jk, nice car love the 8.
post #2141 of 26360
I love the look of that 8. Any plans for those red brake?
post #2142 of 26360
I owned a Protege since I was 18. It took me 5 years to find this 25th anniversary GT. There were only 500 made for Canada, and Canada alone. Oh, and there were only 499 Enzo's produced :P
post #2143 of 26360
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Originally Posted by amstokesdb9 View Post
very nice! the 8 series has so much character
+1. I've always admired the BMW 8 series.
post #2144 of 26360
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Originally Posted by phreak View Post
I love the look of that 8.
Any plans for those red brake?

Yes, powdercoating them black.

I don't get it - why paint stock calipers a super bright color? To draw the eye to....your stock calipers. Yeah, awesome.

Other than that, like I mentioned I'm going to change the wheels, put on a euro M3 steering wheel, fab a better armrest, do some maintenance, and drive it. If it were a weekend car I'd think about lowering it, but it isn't, and these cars were never about handling. They were made to cruise on the autobahn at 150mph in quiet comfort.
post #2145 of 26360
do people here only drive bmws and audis?



the cts coupe is probably going to be my next car. anyone here own one of those?
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