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post #21271 of 26291
is BMW the most affordable make for an I6 with an AWD configuration?
post #21272 of 26291
I think BMW is the only make for an I6 nowadays.

Edit: you can also get an AWD Volvo with I6. Or a Cummins turbo diesel I6 4WD pickup.
Edited by zippyh - 3/14/16 at 6:02am
post #21273 of 26291
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

Also, one more question - Pio - do you pay attention to fuel economy at all? I'm wondering if your new GL is any more fuel efficient in practice than your old one? My X1 is listed at 25/33 and my wife (who drives it 90% of the time) typically average 24 miles per gallon in mostly HWY driving. Her previous car was 23/32 (pre-2008 so it would probably be rated 21/30 today and naturally aspirated of course) and she averaged more like 27 with the same mix.

UnF, yeah, they did succeed admirably with the mileage. I used to get about 14-15 combined, and now I'm getting about 22, so we're looking at a 45%+ improvement. If I'm on the highway, loaded with luggage, etc., cruise on at 80, my range on a full tank approaches 500 miles.
post #21274 of 26291

I'm just here to get paypal'd some money.  Seems I'm too late to the party though.

post #21275 of 26291
I get 225 miles per tank with 80% highway driving @ 70 - 80 mph. Translates to roughly 18-20 mpg which is kinda low given how much hwy driving there is.

Feels like that's on par with an e9x m3 😑
post #21276 of 26291
That's a lot worse than I got with my 330ci, and I drive much less highway than you. I didn't get the impression that the M3 had significantly worse consumption...? But maybe you keep revving to dat 8k rpm...

It is, however, better than the e90 m3. I think I get 16-18
post #21277 of 26291
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That's a lot worse than I got with my 330ci, and I drive much less highway than you. I didn't get the impression that the M3 had significantly worse consumption...? But maybe you keep revving to dat 8k rpm...

It is, however, better than the e90 m3. I think I get 16-18

I drive very tamely when I'm commuting. Shifting at 3k rpm and not driving aggressively. I do drive semi spiritedly on the weekends when it's nice out, but I'm not revving to 8k at each light. Not a lead foot by any means.

Something doesn't feel right because a lot of posters on the forums say they get high 20s on the highway and high tens or low 20s in the city. I'd expect to get mid 20s with my combined driving. But deepitm says he gets the same fuel economy as me, so who knows.

I think the tune and evolve headers my car has are causing increased consumption because it definitely pulls much harder than the stock m3s I've driven. Not to say that increased consumption = faster car but that the tune remapped fuel consumption.

16-18 for your m3 sounds pretty good for what I'm guessing is much more city driving for you.
post #21278 of 26291
@greenfrog again, I don't have an issue with you. I was one of the few people that didn't give much flack and wished you the best on the tire sensor.

I've brought up people like Piob and HRoi as an example of people that provide intelligent insight.

Piob says a lot of accurate things about the purchasing process and SUVs. SUVs aren't my thing, simply because I don't have the need for one. I can also appreciate how awesome some of the current Mercedes SUVs are and that the Model X might not be for everyone.

HRoi also provides great info - the fact he has a Macan and a GT4 on the way is not why I like his comments.

My friends list on the car side is everything from whatever the car of the week is for my previously mentioned friend who usually has something awesome down to my best female friend that has a Golf (nice car btw) and bought it in red because she thought it was cute. Another friend keeps pouring money into a CR-X simply because he's had it nearly all his driving life.

I obsess over a ton of details and likely tend to be the most engineering or physics obsessed within my friend group. I was at SpaceX's HQ last week and was obsessing over the turbo pump impeller for the Merlin engines for the Falcon 9. It's a tiny tiny part that is crucial to dumping the RP-1 and LOx into the combustion chamber. I've done the same with the contactor for the P85D when I visited Tesla.

I often come across as an awkward douche, both online and in real life. It's simply that I pretty much see the world in a first principles approach where you don't take what someone else has said for granted.

My issue isn't you, but lots of people like jet that provide nothing of value here.

@unfacconable

You're absolutely right. With anything that moves, you'll one or more orders of vibrations. On a 4 stroke engine, you generally only care about primary and secondary because of TDC and BDC and firing regardless of the cycle, which is nearly always a take on the Otto. The I6 and V12 (assuming the opposing pistons don't share the same crankpin) are perfectly balanced at the first and second order. It also doesn't mean other engines - even the much despised cross plane V8 - can't be great. BMW made one for the E92 M3 and no one bitched.

Also, I don't plan to post any more engine sounds wink.gif
Edited by ramuman - 3/14/16 at 9:47am
post #21279 of 26291
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I'm just here to get paypal'd some money.  Seems I'm too late to the party though.

I came for the snap chat pics, then I realised it was only dick pics. At least I found out what ramumans face looked like.
post #21280 of 26291

@GreenFrog, do you know what stage the mods were and where they were done/tuned? Might be worth looking into having someone give it a once over to see if it was done right...

 

I don't know much about this stuff, but I've read that wrx's with stage 2 often get better gas mileage than stock when they're tuned correctly.

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I came for the snap chat pics, then I realised it was only dick pics. At least I found out what ramumans face looked like.

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post #21282 of 26291
Did my first HPDE in the FRS yesterday after having done a handful in the Supra and must say that the FRS is as excellent as people claimed. Easy to control, lots of communication from the wheels/tires, fast enough, lots of fun. Like any momentum car you easily feel the rewards of nailing the apexes and driving the right line. Subsequently, you feel dog slow when you don't. The first two sessions were dry and the later two sessions were rainy. Real easy to control in the rain. The few times I started to spin, the traction control corrected it pretty easily. I kept the nannies on since I'm still new to the car. Will be moving up to the intermediate class next time.

It was a new experience having to set up my passes since it's low on torque. With the Supra you can pretty much pass on command. Another new experience was getting passed more. I think my biggest takeaway is that the FRS being slower and more forgiving let me focus better on the moving parts - instructor comments, other cars, flag stations, etc.

Some neat cars were there as well. Lots of M4s and C7 vettes, an F-type, RC-F, BMW 2002 race car, new Shelby GT350. Here are just a few.




post #21283 of 26291
Where'd you go - VIR?
post #21284 of 26291
This was at Summit Point. I'm signed up for a two-day event at VIR in May.
post #21285 of 26291
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Did my first HPDE in the FRS yesterday after having done a handful in the Supra and must say that the FRS is as excellent as people claimed. Easy to control, lots of communication from the wheels/tires, fast enough, lots of fun....
 

The FRS is a fun car.  A buddy of mine bought one as a "More practical" daily driver to use when he can't or doesn't want to drive is Lotus Elise to work.  He really likes it a lot.  I spent some time behind the wheel and also used one to teach the Mrs. how to drive a stick.  Wishing you lots of fun with it at the track!

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