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post #21196 of 26349
Totally true that the exhaust systems can change notes quite a bit. My Supra has a titanium system from the downpipe back and it sounds different (more exotic) than the stainless systems. With the exception of the LFA V10, only a screaming V12 sounds better than a screaming I6. The flat plane crank V8s are up there but I guess its the inherent balances that makes V12/I6 sonics so good. I love hearing a thrilling exhaust note in the atmosphere and turning my head expecting to see some exotic and low and behold its some E36 M3.

About turbo lag? Just downshift.
post #21197 of 26349
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

The difference is largely due to the exhaust. If you have just the engines, it's really hard to distinguish. A partner at my previous company had an E60 M5 and I had my E92 M3. The engines themselves sounded fairly similar. One of the biggest clues was the S65's unmistakable firing order on startup. The exhausts were completely worlds apart though.

A lot of the theatrics associated with V10s and V12s comes from the exhausts they're usually paired with. I will admit there is a difference in the engines themselves, but I6s inherently sound very very similar to V12s.

Tell me what this engine is (I6, V8, V10, V12, etc.) - it's on a dyno with no exhaust (jump to 55s in):

https://clyp.it/dhyffc53

and another guess (hump to 20s in; this is with exhaust on a different car):

https://clyp.it/rasiyti1 (jump to 50s in)

and one more (again with exhaust):

https://clyp.it/nmpzafni

and one last one just for fun:

https://clyp.it/dxuphhk3

All of these are about as accurate as possible and from outside the car - the volume isn't balanced though since I was lazy, the last three are on actual cars, the first is on a dyno. All from engine types described in the last 3 pages of this thread and all are 4 very different engines, but all from modern production cars.

Since I went through trouble of making audio only clips of these, I'll paypal $10 to anyone who guesses the engine type correctly for all 4 within the next hour. You don't have to guess the car or such, simply the engine geometry.

#internet_badasses
post #21198 of 26349
A quiz show! We should wind up ramuman more often laugh.gif
post #21199 of 26349
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

R8 to get a twin turbo V-6.

Rumour has it, they are working on a R4, which will fit in between the R8 and tits.
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

This thread and many other online car forums seem like a case of the blind leading the blind.

Which are you, the first or the later.
post #21200 of 26349
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post


As long as the warranty - just like every other part of a car.

 

And after the 4 year 50k mile warranty?

post #21201 of 26349
Since all of the esteemed members didn't even venture a guess - in order E92 M3, F82 M4, Lamborghini Aventador, Tesla Model S P85D.

Now back to the online posturing.
post #21202 of 26349
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Rumour has it, they are working on a R4, which will fit in between the R8 and tits.
Which are you, the first or the later.

My eyes still work.
post #21203 of 26349
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

The difference is largely due to the exhaust. If you have just the engines, it's really hard to distinguish. A partner at my previous company had an E60 M5 and I had my E92 M3. The engines themselves sounded fairly similar. One of the biggest clues was the S65's unmistakable firing order on startup. The exhausts were completely worlds apart though.

A lot of the theatrics associated with V10s and V12s comes from the exhausts they're usually paired with. I will admit there is a difference in the engines themselves, but I6s inherently sound very very similar to V12s.

Tell me what this engine is (I6, V8, V10, V12, etc.) - it's on a dyno with no exhaust (jump to 55s in):

https://clyp.it/dhyffc53

and another guess (hump to 20s in; this is with exhaust on a different car):

https://clyp.it/rasiyti1 (jump to 50s in)

and one more (again with exhaust):

https://clyp.it/nmpzafni

and one last one just for fun:

https://clyp.it/dxuphhk3

All of these are about as accurate as possible and from outside the car - the volume isn't balanced though since I was lazy, the last three are on actual cars, the first is on a dyno. All from engine types described in the last 3 pages of this thread and all are 4 very different engines, but all from modern production cars.

The first one is very weird. I listened to the entire clip and at 30 seconds, it has the rumble of a V8. Sounds just like the E9x M3 if I had to guess. But after 50 seconds, I can't really say. It's very hard to tell.

Second one has the unmistakable sound of an F8X M3/M4 at cold start. Sounds just like my coworkers M3 -- it has that "rattle" sound on startup.

Third one is obviously an Aventador. That signature V12 sound on the Aventador is very distinct. I've heard many exhaust clips online.

Last one had me stumped initially cause from 3s to 5s, it has the sounds of a high-pitch V10 accelerating, but rather muffled. Then as the pitch gets higher in frequency, it obviously becomes an electric engine. So, knowing you, that's one of the Model S'.
post #21204 of 26349
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

The first one is very weird. I listened to the entire clip and at 30 seconds, it has the rumble of a V8. Sounds just like the E9x M3 if I had to guess. But after 50 seconds, I can't really say. It's very hard to tell.

Second one has the unmistakable sound of an F8X M3/M4 at cold start. Sounds just like my coworkers M3 -- it has that "rattle" sound on startup.

Third one is obviously an Aventador. That signature V12 sound on the Aventador is very distinct. I've heard many exhaust clips online.

Last one had me stumped initially cause from 3s to 5s, it has the sounds of a high-pitch V10 accelerating, but rather muffled. Then as the pitch gets higher in frequency, it obviously becomes an electric engine. So, knowing you, that's one of the Model S'.

Well, it's pretty easy when the teacher gives you the answers. I simply wanted to see if anyone could guess. Even if someone figured one correctly, I would've paypal'ed the money. Just calling out online BS.
post #21205 of 26349
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

Well, it's pretty easy when the teacher gives you the answers.

Just got home from a late lunch, clicked on the link to your post with the clips from my email notelfication, and had a listen.

I think you underestimate how many exhaust clips I've listened to over the years on the Tubes of You. More than half my channel subscriptions are car-related.
post #21206 of 26349
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Just got home from a late lunch, clicked on the link to your post with the clips from my email notelfication, and had a listen.

I think you underestimate how many exhaust clips I've listened to over the years on the Tubes of You. More than half my channel subscriptions are car-related.

One more chance, just for you. $10. One hour, but you have to guess the make and engine type of the car - no need for the specific model.

https://clyp.it/bevryvbj
post #21207 of 26349

My question for the new turbo'd cars is the amount of oil they use and the service intervals from factory.  My GTI started using a ton of oil while not doing any spirited driving and I had to continually add oil between the recommended 10K services.  The techs always told me to add oil because "they are known for using a lot of oil."  How are these cars better for the average consumer?  I can't see a soccer mom adding her own oil between service intervals because that's what the manufacturer told her.  She will just switch brands but everyone seems to be moving towards turbo'd motors to hit fuel economy standards.

 

Maybe VW is just an outlier but are other brands having this issue?  We are currently in a boxer 4 motor and a v6 non-turbo so no issues until the next upgrade cycle which could be 3-5 years.

post #21208 of 26349
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

One more chance, just for you. $10. One hour, but you have to guess the make and engine type of the car - no need for the specific model.

https://clyp.it/bevryvbj

This doesn't count. I know that's the P1 because the email notelfication I got from SF had you pasting this link before your edit:

https://savemedia.com/watch?v=17Pj2Bw5Q4U

laugh.gif

And besides, that's a sub-optimal clip to use. It's mixed with exhaust notes from other cars.
post #21209 of 26349
$100, but you might have to think creatively - need to nail model and year. One hour and go.

https://clyp.it/55ljnob4

Hint - 2, 3 and 4 wheels are in play.
post #21210 of 26349
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

This doesn't count. I know that's the P1 because the email notelfication I got from SF had you pasting this link before your edit:

https://savemedia.com/watch?v=17Pj2Bw5Q4U

laugh.gif

And besides, that's a sub-optimal clip to use. It's mixed with exhaust notes from other cars.

Well you stalked me I suppose for the 5s I had the original clip, you can PM me your paypal if you want. I own up to my mistakes. smile.gif
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