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Am looking into buying a motorcycle. but will most likely end up with an 80's Jap bike.

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What does that mean?

Cage = car
post #21168 of 26954
R8 to get a twin turbo V-6.
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The new NSX looks freaking ridiculous as well. 

 

Will the R8 do the electric motor thing as well to turn down the turbo lag?


Edited by ridethecliche - 3/12/16 at 9:22am
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My buddy in SF has a thruxton and loves it. I still think the Duc Sport is better looking but I'm not buying a bike. Far too many dipshits on the road to go cageless with a baby on the way.

Triumph totally revamped the Thruxton for 2016. Neither it nor the SportClassic are my kind of machine. If I want a classic bike then I will buy the real thing.
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R8 to get a twin turbo V-6.
Well, shit.
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Well, shit.

Don't I know how that feels? However, you're safe, as the V10 option will still apparently be offered (at this time.)
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I don't get the ripping of turbos. Modern turbo cars, at least the faster ones I've driven, including my DD, have very low reciprocating mass turbos. Turbo lag doesn't really apply these days. Also, the pressure impedance matching on both the intake and exhaust are pretty remarkable. If you have the cars in any sort of aggressive driving mode, they keep the turbos spooled up and mitigate compressor surge and stall amazingly well.

The morons on the internet will still parrot that turbos suck. You should tell that to the people that designed every modern McLaren, the F8x M, Koenigseggs, many of the current Porsches including the 718, and a myriad of other non-italian supercars.

Edit: I even had a 320i loaner for part of a day and was pretty impressed with the engine.
Edited by ramuman - 3/12/16 at 9:49am
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I've always been leery of turbo failure. Surely they aren't rated for the lifetime of true vehicle. How long do they last?
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I've always been leery of turbo failure. Surely they aren't rated for the lifetime of true vehicle. How long do they last?

As long as the warranty - just like every other part of a car.
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But a turbo 6 will never match dat exhaust note of a v10 frown.gif
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But a turbo 6 will never match dat exhaust note of a v10 frown.gif

References? Also V10s don't have primary and secondary inertial balance, unlike I6s and V12s.
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For me the question has nothing to do about turbos sucking. For me it's about application. In daily driving situations removing displacement and adding turbos is inferior in a full size car or SUV vs. an NA engine with higher displacement. The shifting of the torque curve to the right, mated with modern transmissions that seem specifically designed/programmed to keep the rpms as low as possible, adversely impact the characteristics of a large daily driver. I don't want to have to work on keeping the rpms up just to mitigate these things in my daily driver.
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For the piob, I recommend this (caveat, torque curve largely limited by the mechanical grip of the tires on the dyno):



Feel free to guess the engine type. It does make a fun DD.
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This thread and many other online car forums seem like a case of the blind leading the blind.
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