Originally Posted by Piobaire
The SUV is more like 110-120k nicely optioned, no? I know the "Signature series" was over 130k.
I suppose it depends on what you consider to be nicely optioned. If you need the extra range or speed from the 90 models, it is hard to do under $100k. I think i could get something for $80k (taking into account the $10k fed + state tax credits available to CA residents) which would be just fine.
Originally Posted by ramuman
I agree with most of your points. I'd also say that not all of us do it for the cool factor - my mistake in saying that. Many Tesla owners come from engineering and startup backgrounds and just like being part of the experience. I've railed on the fit and finish before.
It's not perfect and I wish the guy that runs the company - starts with an Elon or something - would focus on less obsession with how to optimize regenerative braking when it becomes sub-optimal on an induction motor's rotor geometry below 4 km/h. But that obsession to detail is what created the first fundamentally revolutionary car(s) and form of personal transportation in decades.
None of Testa's 3 cars are for everyone, and currently, they're not meant to be. I don't get why internet armchair reviewers even try to compare cars they've never had for even an hour against other cars they haven't had for an hour.
Agree with you here but I would broaden it to say that it's not necessarily startups but tech companies in general and there is some geographical overlay there as well. It's clearly the IT car to have right now in the Bay Area (and I don't mean information technology). There is a vocal fanbase of early adopters but there are plenty of bread and butter people with the mean to buy cars in that price range who are passing over the traditional nameplates. Most of that is because of the product but certainly some of it is for other reasons. I know finance people, lawyers and other non-tech types who love their Teslas but don't know induction from inductive reasoning.
I'm really excited to see what the 3 looks like and of course to see how they evolve into a higher volume manufacturer. As you point out the fit and finish is quite boutique-hand you can only get away with that for so long. I'm also wondering if they will stay with the Porsche level option pricing when the 3 comes out or if they will lower prices across the board. Hard to justify those prices on a car with a $35k base but I don't see charging wildly different prices for the same options on different models. Maybe they can pull it off though.