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Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post

are you talking about the huge strike years ago, and the now fairly decent working conditions?  very good companies to work for.

(have sought work through 2 manufacturers- denied because i can't pass the Kanji reading test)

I'm talking about the roadblocks the UAW kept in place for decades that allowed Japan to blow open the US (and Canadian) markets to foreign competition. The UAW was not the only player, as much of management sucked too, but the UAW was certainly a major player in blocking reforming efforts.

Think we've decided to extend Mrs. Piob's lease a few months and get into the late fall to see what all the 2017 models bring. She's serious about not getting something as big as the XC90 so we'll be seeing what 2017 brings to the XC60 (it doesn't have all the new toys of the 90 at this time) and maybe something worth looking at from Infiniti or Rover? Since she wants to go smaller an LR2 might be worth looking at. We looked at the Evoque prior, and outside of issues like crappy interior materials, it has the non-existent rear windshield like the X6 from BMW.
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Time to put on your big boy pents and get Mrs. Piob a Model X. The all-around visibility in that car is ungodly.

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GF, you test drive it?

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You really need to choose your words selling the model x to your wife.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

You really need to choose your words selling the model x to your wife.

Not interested in the least at the moment. We'll go E one day but the value for the tech just isn't there right now in my opinion.
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I still love Elon has some wine with friends at dinner and decides the lineup should be called S3XY. The word is obvious, but he did it knowing Ford would sue them for using E, but 3 was an inverted f-u to them and also represented the third car they made and the Y is a take on 'why not?'

Also, surprised if GF has driven an X. I'll be driving one on the 18th. I'm going in with a completely open mind. It's with a friend of mine and she's the only woman who has driven my S and does her due diligence down to a t.

I want her to make a choice. The other conventional SAV/SUVs she's considering in that price class are the usual suspects that I'm sure piob or hroi can nail.
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Not interested in the least at the moment. We'll go E one day but the value for the tech just isn't there right now in my opinion.

I completely agree on this. It's just supporting the company and the technology. Per car, you'll meet more douchebags that drive a Prius or a Corvette than a Model S.

Model S drivers generally tend to be well adjusted people that did reasonably well in life and wanted something that was cool. Teslas make sense in some use cases: the TCO makes sense (which it can if you have a family) or you just want something that you grew up wishing existed (dork me + a girlfriend and no kids).
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Originally Posted by mike1445 View Post
 

GF, you test drive it?


Y.. yes.

 

On YouTube!

 

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IT WAS A POV VIDEO SO IT WAS PRACTICALLY IRL. LICK DEEZ NUTS!

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I should probably go in for a test drive of an X and/or an S before I cash in my deposit but can't justify the time suck.

As to Piob's point, the beauty of the Tesla product strategy is that they're competing against similarly poor value propositions until they can get the gigafactory to bring down the cost of batteries. Although I don't think Model S or X represent "good value" I think they certainly do compared to the conventional competition at their price point. While I am not enamored with some aspects of the interior finish, there's no way I'd buy any of the competition selling at that price point. That's probably the reason I never see new 7 series, S-class, a8s or Panameras on the road but Model S's are a dime a dozen here. Similarly, I would expect anyone looking at well optioned Cayennes, Q7s and X5s are going to end up in Model X's. The exception here of course is people who really need the X to get to Tahoe and don't want to rely on superchargers, which I completely understand.

I would never consider any of those other cars, but like many Tesla customers (for largely the reasons stated by ramuman above), Tesla is the only manufacturer making a people hauler that could convince me to part with $80k+. Of course, I say that knowing full well I'm not getting any Tesla right now, but that's largely because I live in the city now and don't drive to work. I'm actually amazed how many people I know or see in these parts that have Model S's for the cool factor and not because they need a large family sedan or drive a lot.
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This thread is a race to the bottom.
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This thread is a race to the bottom.

We hit rock bottom a long time ago.
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Yeah, the bottom of....DEEZ NUTS!
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We hit rock bottom a long time ago.

Happened right around the time GF started throwing around Dat ZHP.
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

Tesla is the only manufacturer making a people hauler that could convince me to part with $80k+.

The SUV is more like 110-120k nicely optioned, no? I know the "Signature series" was over 130k.
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