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post #20311 of 26360
Someone must know, it didn't come through thin air.
post #20312 of 26360

lol going from an evo to a prius must be a nightmare

post #20313 of 26360
You need to consider a Tesla
post #20314 of 26360
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Originally Posted by gong View Post

lol going from an evo to a prius must be a nightmare
Not a Prius (the ford fusion energi titanium), but still... The shorter commute, and not getting gas every 4 days is amazing though
post #20315 of 26360
I'm very much enjoying my stick shift Mazda 3 GT. Lots of pep and a fantastic turning radius. Wish it had more space in the back for the rear-facing car seat. It's also 100% paid-for, so that's pretty great.
post #20316 of 26360

Does anyone know what the ball park margins are on super and hyper cars?

 

On a 488 GTB?

 

An Aventador?

 

A Huayra?

 

A One-77?

 

A 918?

 

Got me thinking because the new Lamborghini Centenario is a limited run of 40 units and each one is roughly $2.4M, or around $100M in revenue. I wonder what the margins are for Lambo on that kind of car.

 

I feel like they wouldn't be very high if you include R&D, materials, and labor, with R&D acting as the largest cost center.

post #20317 of 26360
Ferrari is publicly traded so you can read their 10-Q/K and come up with a rough estimate of the margins for super/hyper cars.
post #20318 of 26360
Might take some serious digging if they're consolidated into the fiat financial statements.
post #20319 of 26360

Lambo and a lot of other brands are part of publicly traded companies.  Here... from Bloomberg:

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 Before taxes and interest last year, Fiat made a 12.3 percent profit margin on its Ferraris and Maseratis, blowing away the 3.3 percent margin on its mass market cars. All told, the company stamped out 22,400 opulent sports cars, 64 percent more than in 2012.



http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-03-10/makers-of-lamborghini-ferrari-and-maserati-find-its-never-been-easier-to-sell-six-figure-supercars

post #20320 of 26360
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Might take some serious digging if they're consolidated into the fiat financial statements.

Ferrari produces separate FS now since Fiat spun them off.
post #20321 of 26360
Ah okay, makes more sense then
post #20322 of 26360
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I'm pretty cynical on hybrids. They were great for kicking off the electrification movement after the EV1. Now, it's generally an overcomplicated powertrain. I'm fine with forced induction engines - and the nicer ones are phenomenal these days.

I drive my 'automatic' turbocharged car nearly everyday in SoCal traffic and it's amazing how well the engine is in managing the turbos down to many levels of obsession (separate post if needed). I wouldn't dismiss them off hand.

for a while, i drove an automatic turbo (R33 Skyline) and it had plenty of "pep" when changing lanes from almost a standstill. traffic can be horrendous. need that instant power on tap.

now drive a manual. power comes on strong at 2k rpm. every day is leg day.......

 

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Yeah, plug in hybrid. Wouldn't have gotten it without the perks. Went from a Lancer Evo to this : /

I'm sorry for your loss.....

 

 

 

post #20323 of 26360

My dream car in the whole world ever since I was born was Volkswagen Golf R

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My dream car in the whole world ever since I was born was Volkswagen Golf R

 

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post #20325 of 26360
A+ spelling for a 6 y.o.
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