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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

I did try the Model S, and loved it. Fabulous driver, so quiet that the tire noise becomes irritating, etc. The only problem with it-- well two, really-- was size. The aerodynamic shape makes the back seat useless for people over, say, 5'10", and yet the width and length of the whole thing will make it a pain in the ass to maneuver around cities and tight parking spaces.

http://jalopnik.com/teslas-newest-update-lets-you-walk-your-car-like-a-dog-1753236598
post #19907 of 26935
I wonder what sort of MF and residual Teslas have?
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$60K or so for a used 85 is super tempting. My longest drive (about 4x a year) is 220 or so miles, so could in theory make the entire trip on one charge (though, as I just looked up, there's multiple supercharge stations along the route).


drawback: I don't own a garage and thus don't own a plug in a garage.
post #19909 of 26935
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

I did try the Model S, and loved it. Fabulous driver, so quiet that the tire noise becomes irritating, etc. The only problem with it-- well two, really-- was size. The aerodynamic shape makes the back seat useless for people over, say, 5'10", and yet the width and length of the whole thing will make it a pain in the ass to maneuver around cities and tight parking spaces.

The Model X will almost certainly fix the first problem. I really hope their 3-series competitor addresses the second without killing too many of the larger cars' virtues.

The next-gen seats fix the rear issues imo - I'm 6'1" and they're fine for me. Sorta wish a few more things were standard, but it is what it is.

I will agree on the outside dimensions being huge. I've started to use Summon from my phone from the narrow spot I have before I leave my place or pull up after I get out, but it's not a tiny car by any means.

The suspension is pretty smart about auto-raising, it's not perfect. And when some jerk with a huge truck is honking behind you while it raises, it's sub-optimal.

Summon sucked terribly two weeks ago and I think I could've been EdinA drunk and parked better, but it's improved quite a bit, just like Autopilot. That's sort of the cool thing; you get surprise features week over week.
post #19910 of 26935
I'm probably alone here, but I find the Model X atrocious looking. The rear doors really annoy me.
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I wonder just how much data they are gathering from the driver? Speed? Acceleration habits? Cornering fast? Record of your whereabouts?
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I wonder just how much data they are gathering from the driver? Speed? Acceleration habits? Cornering fast? Record of your whereabouts?

Just about everything and more. But you'd be surprised how much BMW or MB know when you drop off the key when you get it serviced.

When I took the M3 after Euro Delivery, I did the 1,200 mile break in to a T and had a comment and a pat on the back with the GM saying I should've pushed it harder. When I did 178 mph with the M4 and spanked it on both 'ring tracks and Spa on the second ED, I got a wink on the topic.
post #19913 of 26935
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I'm probably alone here, but I find the Model X atrocious looking. The rear doors really annoy me.

I'm fine with the doors, but the front looks pretty bad at worst and bland at best.
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Scenario: your Tesla is sitting out in the cold all night. You start it up in the morning when it's cold af.

 

Question: how soon until you can have warm / hot air blowing out of the ventilation?

 

My E46 starts to blow warm air surprisingly quickly -- within 1-2 minutes of driving. 

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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Scenario: your Tesla is sitting out in the cold all night. You start it up in the morning when it's cold af.

Question: how soon until you can have warm / hot air blowing out of the ventilation?

My E46 starts to blow warm air surprisingly quickly -- within 1-2 minutes of driving. 

Faster than an ICE car. Between the seat warmers and the fact the heater is electric. Open the app, get in the car a minute later.
post #19916 of 26935
I was told that there is more emphasis on getting the seat warmers to do their job as they are much more energy-efficient than electric air heaters.

But one of the nice things about a Tesla is that you don't have to run the engine to turn the thing on. Just (I'm guessing) wave the key at your kitchen window and it will cheerfully start its day.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I wonder just how much data they are gathering from the driver? Speed? Acceleration habits? Cornering fast? Record of your whereabouts?

Just about everything and more. But you'd be surprised how much BMW or MB know when you drop off the key when you get it serviced.

yep. Even my dad's old ass (i think 2008) 3-series has a On-Board Diagnostics plugin and iPhone app that tracks a shitload of data about the car and how it's been driven. He always blames me for "driving like a prick" whenever I take it out, so it must work. It also alerted him of a cylinder (or something) that was starting to misfire and he was able to get it fixed on the cheap before any potential problems happened.


Same type of thing applies when auto insurance companies offer a "discount if you just plug this thing into your car". Don't do it!!
post #19918 of 26935
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

Same type of thing applies when auto insurance companies offer a "discount if you just plug this thing into your car". Don't do it!!

Yup. My fear, of course, is the auto companies will eventually sell that shit to the insurance companies.

Forgot to mention a couple things about the Volvo I thought were cool. Dash is completely digital and they've taken advantage of all that screen space. They have themes for the dashboard and you can even put the GPS info on the dash between the speedo and tach. Menus on the touchscreen are very easy to deal with and there's swiping left/right as well as swipe pull down menu. I really liked that and am sure the redesigned GLE's electronics will not measure up to the XC90.

Back to the engine. Supercharged and turbocharged. It does not behave like a 2 litre with twin turbos would behave but rather has adequate torque from a stop. Volvo claims a 6.1 0-60 but I think that's optimistic and reading reviews indicates more a 6.5 which is adequate acceleration. For a small displacement engine in a 2.5 ton vehicle it performs as well as one could hope for.
post #19919 of 26935
2 liter. Urgh
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Manufacturers should focus their R&D efforts on making fuel-efficient V10s and V12s.

 

Ain't no one want any fo bangers.

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