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post #19891 of 26282
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BA6LlEHHJPh/?taken-by=mrforts strange that I've seen this once already today.


Small world as that's my neighborhood.

post #19892 of 26282
SF meat up in the making
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So envelope calculations for a 64k XC90, 4k cap reduction from dealer, taxes in put it at about $990 a month.
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So envelope calculations for a 64k XC90, 4k cap reduction from dealer, taxes in put it at about $990 a month.

I think they're drunk on their own kool-aid.
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Well, the residual would be 32.6, so at 60k cap, you're depreciating 27.4k so roughly $761 a month in depreciation. No money down finance it for five years is about 1.15k a month. If this car is her choice I might see if I can talk her into driving it for four years.
post #19896 of 26282
I dare say with huge bias built in - are the SUV/SAV crowd here considering the Model X? My friend's GF was all set on a Macan and she's very smart when it comes to expenses. After showing her the benefits she's all over the Model X and has a reservation in.

If you consider TCO, it's impressive for what's essentially the future. Sitting in traffic with autopilot on the 405, gates/garage doors automatically opening are icing on the cake for what's already wonderful car in the S. The X adds more space and utility and unless you're doing Jeep type off-roading, we're told it'll be fairly competent on light trails. She does a lot of biking and rock climbing and she seemed happy enough with the total picture for her use case.

You will probably deal with first gen issues and will have to wait ~6 months, but I'm surprised it's not on more people's shopping list when people are discussing $800-1200 monthly payments.
post #19897 of 26282
What's the range and do you need to have anything installed in your garage for fast charging? It's too small for me but I could see my wife driving one next cycle when it's a more mature production.
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My wife has an irrational fear of running out of charges. Doesn't matter that she can drive from Miami to Daytona beach on a full charge, she's not having any of it. I might be able to get away with a Tesla as my car, but not for her DD. And I'm still too enamored with my loud ass, caveman shifter, fossil fuel burners to make the switch
post #19899 of 26282
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

What's the range and do you need to have anything installed in your garage for fast charging? It's too small for me but I could see my wife driving one next cycle when it's a more mature production.

Fast charging is subjective - in almost any real world scenario, you'll be fine with overnight charging at home. This is more descriptive for 120V vs. 240V etc.

It comes with a little bag of adapters so you can charge at most any place with an electrical outlet and faster at ChargePoints locations, etc. The only adapter you likely might need is a CHAdeMO which basically only the Leaf uses and Tesla sells that for $450 or something around there.

By far the best way is Supercharging. They're really abundant in Cali. The only time I had an issue was at a Costco. I plugged it in and went in and it stopped charging. I just called up 88-TESLA, never gave them my name or my location or anything. The person immediately said 'Mr. ramuman (well my real name), I'm sorry to hear you had an issue at stall 3A and glad 1B (which is where I moved it too) is charging well. We'll have someone out to take a look' - it was a surreal experience that based on just my caller ID, they knew who and where I was, what car I had, immediately dumped the telemetry from the car and had someone out to fix the other stall before my car charged.

You won't match the Supercharger - a system that dumps 160 kW - at home. As a reference, the average house uses about 1.2 kW - so it basically delivers about what 100-150 houses would use, which is a technical marvel through a cable that's way nicer than the Leaf/i3/Prius plug-in/etc.

Reference point for range - I did about 120 miles yesterday in my car starting with about 90% charge going between Newport Beach and Santa Monica and errands in between. I had about 95 real world miles left when I came home without charging in between - and there were places where I easily could've gotten charge when my friend and I were getting dinner and lunch.

Also, I haven't seen the X in person, but the S is really deceptively roomy because of the two trunks and open interior. You can watch the X launch video here for the 7 guys and the luggage demo: https://www.teslamotors.com/videos/model-x-launch

I know I always plug Tesla every chance I get, but in my case, the S is a way way cheaper car to own than the M4. Even the insurance on a 130k (pre-tax credit) Model S P85D is cheaper than that on a 90k M4. Safety is also obviously spectacular.
post #19900 of 26282
Speaking of safety, a 3-series convertible and a model S absolutely crushed each other at a T intersection this morning outside the Starbucks I was sitting at. All parties got out with no visible injuries and spent the next 15 minutes walking around shaking their heads sheepishly
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What sort of tax break does one get for a Tesla? Do you get it on a lease?
post #19902 of 26282
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

What sort of tax break does one get for a Tesla? Do you get it on a lease?

7,500 federal in the US and the state varies by state (down to 0 in many states). You get it on a lease, but since Tesla is the owner for the duration, the federal (but not any state rebate) is just rolled into the payments proportionately.
post #19903 of 26282
As someone who has to charge their iPhone several times a day to prevent it from dying, I can't imagine how much range anxiety I'd have with an electric car.

That's why I love my i8.
post #19904 of 26282
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

As someone who has to charge their iPhone several times a day to prevent it from dying, I can't imagine how much range anxiety I'd have with an electric car.

That's why I love my i8.

I have one for a couple of days, might post my review on it here and on Bimmerpost.

I berated the i3 when I drove a pre-production prototype. The guy at BMW taking my feedback was stunned when the first words out of my mouth were 'it's a f*ucking piece of sh*t'. Hopefully my thoughts (not to BMW obviously since it's a production model) will be better. The i8 hasn't really impressed me though.
post #19905 of 26282
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

I dare say with huge bias built in - are the SUV/SAV crowd here considering the Model X? My friend's GF was all set on a Macan and she's very smart when it comes to expenses. After showing her the benefits she's all over the Model X and has a reservation in.

If you consider TCO, it's impressive for what's essentially the future. Sitting in traffic with autopilot on the 405, gates/garage doors automatically opening are icing on the cake for what's already wonderful car in the S. The X adds more space and utility and unless you're doing Jeep type off-roading, we're told it'll be fairly competent on light trails. She does a lot of biking and rock climbing and she seemed happy enough with the total picture for her use case.

You will probably deal with first gen issues and will have to wait ~6 months, but I'm surprised it's not on more people's shopping list when people are discussing $800-1200 monthly payments.

I did try the Model S, and loved it. Fabulous driver, so quiet that the tire noise becomes irritating, etc. The only problem with it-- well two, really-- was size. The aerodynamic shape makes the back seat useless for people over, say, 5'10", and yet the width and length of the whole thing will make it a pain in the ass to maneuver around cities and tight parking spaces.

The Model X will almost certainly fix the first problem. I really hope their 3-series competitor addresses the second without killing too many of the larger cars' virtues.
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