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post #19876 of 26272
Well, my current GL lease is 60% residual with a 1.1% MF.
post #19877 of 26272
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

What are you used to getting from Mercedes? Those numbers are in Porsche and Audi's ballpark, but worse than BMW's. Of course, no one is gonna beat bmw


Is bmw known for great residuals? If so, why is that?

post #19878 of 26272
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post


Is bmw known for great residuals? If so, why is that?

In the BMW and Mercedes category it's more about how much the manufacture is willing to subsidize the residual based on the value of used and the life time value of a client (both used and lessee).
post #19879 of 26272
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


In the BMW and Mercedes category it's more about how much the manufacture is willing to subsidize the residual based on the value of used and the life time value of a client (both used and lessee).


Yes, but why are BMW and MB residuals systematically higher than Audi's, for example? 

post #19880 of 26272
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

The dashboard, the UI, all really incredible. Great electronics, highly customizable dash and video display.

I remember 10 or so years ago when the navigation system was the coolest thing I could ever want in a car.

Now, I'm actually looking at older cars that purposefully do NOT have any big screen displays. Nearly pulled the damn trigger on a 2011 335xi last weekend, the car was bare as fuck and awesome. Need to figure out parking first, can't jump on anything yet.
post #19881 of 26272
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Well, my current GL lease is 60% residual with a 1.1% MF.
Oof. Well that Volvo lease is gonna suck, all right
post #19882 of 26272
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post


Yes, but why are BMW and MB residuals systematically higher than Audi's, for example? 
Systematic subsidies on the residual and the money factor. If I had gone with BMW, my lease payment on a $85k M4 would be around the same as that of a $70k Macan S
post #19883 of 26272
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Okay, XC90 is an awesome vehicle in its class. Lease parameters fucking suck. 3 year/45k miles = 50% residual and the MF is 4.2%.

Nicely dressed, mid 60s.

Driver experience is awesome. The dashboard, the UI, all really incredible. Great electronics, highly customizable dash and video display. The supercharged/turbocharged engine works, in "performance" mode it's quite acceptable and in the low 6s for 0-60 and has all it needs to highway merge and pass.

Haven't worked through numbers vs. competitors yet but from a purely driving experience it's teh shiznit.

Can you stack MSDs to lower the MF? Even then, the residual is atrocious. Like HRoi said, that firmly puts it in Porsche territory. Even as a huge proponent of leases given the right use case, I couldn't do that. That's literally decent Tesla Model S 85D territory.
post #19884 of 26272
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post


Yes, but why are BMW and MB residuals systematically higher than Audi's, for example? 

No one wants an Audi, tack on used and likely driven by a douche to that and you can arrive at Audi's residual.
post #19885 of 26272
Outside of the financial considerations, which I'll admit usually drive my choices, I want to reiterate the XC90 is an awesome vehicle if that's what you're looking for. If you're a buy and drive for 8-10 years, this is something you should consider.
post #19886 of 26272
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post


No one wants an Audi, tack on used and likely driven by a douche to that and you can arrive at Audi's residual.

 

I didn't think idnfl ownership of an Audi could have such a deleterious effect on the entire brand's lineup's residual.

post #19887 of 26272
The Outback has been great in the snow we've had in Nashville but I've driven in snow from living in Ohio. On the other hand you have inexperienced people abandoning cars all over or in this case of this Q7 driver at the end of my street, flipping over

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post #19888 of 26272
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post #19889 of 26272
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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post

The Outback has been great in the snow we've had in Nashville but I've driven in snow from living in Ohio. On the other hand you have inexperienced people abandoning cars all over or in this case of this Q7 driver at the end of my street, flipping over
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I never got how people think traction control equates to traction generation and superhuman road handling. The Q7 driver had to think, "hey this is one of the safest SUVs, physics has nothing on me."

Cars come with hideous airbag warnings on the visors and stupid warnings about the nav system that you have to turn off and yada yada. However, you actually have to read the owner's manual to find gems like BMW's decidedly German warning: "the laws of physics cannot be repealed, even with DSC."

It's an Audi, so I'm sure that Q7's fate was accurately factored into the residual.
post #19890 of 26272
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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post

The Outback has been great in the snow we've had in Nashville but I've driven in snow from living in Ohio. On the other hand you have inexperienced people abandoning cars all over or in this case of this Q7 driver at the end of my street, flipping over
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BA6LlEHHJPh/?taken-by=mrforts strange that I've seen this once already today.

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