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post #18886 of 26360
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Originally Posted by horndog View Post

Agree with HRoi that you should buy what you love. Life's short. You can always resell for more than you bought it to some BMW forum fuckwit.

FTFY
post #18887 of 26360
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

What happened to the original wheels?  Did he get rid of them?

The owner before him had then powder coated in some fucked up color so he sold them and got the ZCP wheels instead.
post #18888 of 26360
Taking the car to get it PPI'ed tomorrow. If all checks out, and I get him down to 17.5, I'm gonna do it.
post #18889 of 26360
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

The owner before him had then powder coated in some fucked up color so he sold them and got the ZCP wheels instead.

Well then he doesn't really get to jack the price up on account of the wheels. Car had wheels, car now has wheels. Both wheels say "bmw" on them.

I know you think they are something extra special, but fact is, you are buying a bmw with bmw wheels. Outside of an enthusiast forum, that is all they are.

It was a selling point when it sounded like it came with the old rims for winter use.
post #18890 of 26360
Well he has a somewhat spurious premise because those wheels are from the competition package and were an extra cost option. But they're not worth much after thirteen years of depreciation.

The more laughable idea is that he feels that he can charge the future owner maintenance costs. Really, fuck you.
post #18891 of 26360
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Taking the car to get it PPI'ed tomorrow. If all checks out, and I get him down to 17.5, I'm gonna do it.

Get him down a whole 500 bucks? Wow, that's going to take some major swagger.
post #18892 of 26360
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Well he has a somewhat spurious premise because those wheels are from the competition package and were an extra cost option. But they're not worth much after thirteen years of depreciation.

The more laughable idea is that he feels that he can charge the future owner maintenance costs. Really, fuck you.

Exactly. On an enthusiast forum, they are something special. To everyone else they are the wheels on a 13 year old car. If I buy some si wheels to put on my 03 civic dx because the previous owner fucked up the stock wheels, that's not an upgrade, that's just buying some non fucked up Honda wheels so I don't look like an idiot with line green rims.
post #18893 of 26360

Haha, you need to aim for like 2k lower. Tell him you know how much he paid and you'd like to let him break even. If not, walk away. If he really wants to sell it, it'll be yours. If not then you get to figure out how much you really wanted it to begin with.

post #18894 of 26360
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post


Edit: I stalked the guy on m3forum.net and found out he paid $16k for the car a year ago. He's now selling for $18.5k. Granted, he put on OEM ZCP wheels and replaced the brakes this spring.. but now I don't feel as amenable to paying $18. Is it a dick move to be like, "yo, I saw you paid $16. I'll offer you $17?"

It's obvious he's trying to recoup his "mods" and maintenance costs.

 

Unless they are rare and collectible models, cars lose value from one year to the next, not gain.  If I were you I'd say, "You paid $16k for it a year ago.  I'll offer you $15k even" 


Edited by Rumpelstiltskin - 10/26/15 at 8:13pm
post #18895 of 26360
What you all are failing to realize is that even at $18.5k, the car is actually competitively priced. I don't think any of you have been tracking the e46 m3 market as closely as I have for the past couple months. I routinely see cars in rougher shape and 30 - 40% more miles being listed for $20k and above. deepitm made a good point that it shouldn't be hard to find a good condition e46 m3, given that they're not all that rare, and he's right. But you'll be paying a hefty premium for those. With companies like EAG snapping up prime examples and selling them for $5k+ over market, it's actually quite hard to find something like this m3 in question at this price and condition.

There's a reason why I reacted so immediately to it once I saw it.

And unfortunately in my case, the owner has pricing power here because there are a lot of people interested in this car and no one would have batted an eye if he listed it for $20k or more. He can EASILY say no to any reasonable offer I make and find someone willing to pay $18k because.. like I said, it's not a bad deal at all. It's only a "bad" deal in the sense that I know how much the owner bought it for originally and from that standpoint, it seems expensive.

If anything, the current owner got a heck of a nice deal when he got it for 16k with 70k miles a year ago. I just don't have much leverage here.

I challenge anyone here to find me a 2003+ m3 with less than 80k miles, coupe, m/t, and solid maintenance history for less than $20k. And FWIW, I actually value some of the mods the car has and am willing to pay a small premium for them -- the ZCP wheels (from the e92.. they're not 13 years old) with new PSSs for instance.

If I end up getting the car for $17.5, I'll be decently happy / satisfied. Anything below that and I'd be pretty happy, as I'm very confident I'd be able to sell it back in a couple years for roughly the same price like my ZHP.
post #18896 of 26360
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Get him down a whole 500 bucks? Wow, that's going to take some major swagger.

$1000, given that it's listed at $18.5.

Brah, I see you're still mad about the stupid student loan BS wink.gif
post #18897 of 26360
Advertised for 20k does not mean they are selling for that much (especially when he self reports he got one for 16 though that may be lieing or boasting)
post #18898 of 26360
Yes, but realistically speaking, a car listed for 20k is not going to sell for 15 or 16k. It will sell for maybe 18 or 19k depending on negotiations and ppi results.
post #18899 of 26360
Unless it's being advertised by unrealistic fanboys in the first place (like on Grai-led.com)

He also could have been lying about the purchase price to impress his forum buddies (like on styleforum.com)
post #18900 of 26360

You're telling me a 13 year old car appreciated over the last year?

I don't know anything about BMW or M whatevers, but a two minute CL search found this: http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/5267161333.html

 

Maybe I'm crazy.  I don't get paying almost $20,000 for a car that is half as old as me that is known to require lots of regular expensive maintenance/repairs.  Then again I'm probably just salty about having student loans.

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