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Rumpelstiltskin said:

325 & 330 were only made in 2006.  After that it was 328 & 335.  330s get snapped up like hotcakes while 325 (which were seriously neutered) go for a song.  For the best bang for the buck one would think that a loaded 325 and then swapping out the intake and exhaust which would bring the hp but more importantly the torque up out of the cellar and into 330 territory would be the smartest move. 

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Are you just making this **** up? Nothing you've said is correct.

Here's my good ole 18 year old Bertha. Hopefully she lasts another 18 years. I should be able to pay off student loans by then.



impolyt_one said:

Are you just making this **** up? Nothing you've said is correct.

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Send in the Fact Check Mafia.



Aneil4lom said:

I always saw the 6 GC as being closer to the 7 then the 5. The pricing makes sense when you look at it like that.

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The F11 (5 series touring) and F01 (7 series SWB), are built on the same platform, so it's purely marketing, why the 6GC is more expensive than a 5.

Here in Europe, there's a $32000 price difference on the base price of a M5 and M6 GC, it's the same **** with CLS 63 and E 63, you can get 2 2011-12 sub 20k km E63 amg's, for the same money as new M6 coupe with a couple extras.

Piobaire said:

Sat the Mrs. in an RRS, normally aspirated today. She loves it. Really think we're leaving MB this time for her. She already likes the FX37 more than the new ML and the FX I can easily get 250-300 a month less. If I could get the RRS for the same monthly as the ML she's in.

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If you want an RRS wait for the new one to drop.



jet said:

don't they give away rrs for nothing? at least they used to in socal

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That would explain so many things.

They do a good job with that stuff though, both the 6GC and CLS shooting brake are very good looking cars for their respective genres considering that they're re-shelled plebe platforms. I'd say they're better looking than the CLS when it came out in 2004. The original CLS was something new-ish; the 6GC looks like what a BMW sedan should be in 2013, to me. It makes the 5er look almost unnecessary. The CLS shooting brake is aiming to be the coolest wagon on the market.



jet said:

don't they give away rrs for nothing? at least they used to in socal

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Not to my experience but that would be nice. What's your definition of "nothing?"

Find Finn said:

If you want an RRS wait for the new one to drop.

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If I was buying that would be the best advice. As I'm leasing I'm hoping they are indeed giving them away "for nothing." Model body changes are often awesome chances to get the retiring model for dirt cheap. It's why I'm paying a material amount less for my current 2012 GL than I was paying for my prior 2010 GL.

impolyt_one said:

Are you just making this **** up? Nothing you've said is correct.

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Really?

In the e90/e92 body style, the 330 and the 325 were made in 2006 only. 2007 they switched to 328 and 335 turbocharged models. This made the 255 hp 330 a desirable car on the used car market and they get snapped up very quickly. BMW has been known for their silky smooth i-6 motors for quite some time now (many BMW purists frown at the thought of forced induction on any BMW other than limited run cars such as the 2002 turbo). The 325 made 215 hp and the 328 made 230 but the 328 had a more torquey engine. The 330 had a zf ****** while the 325/328 have a gm ******. This is common knowledge.

The 325/328/330 share the same 3.0 liter engine, the N52 (this is for US cars only. European e90 325 had 2.5 liter engines). The differences in hp and torque in the 3 models are due to 3 variables only: intake manifold, exhaust and software. The 330 has a three stage intake manifold while the 328 and the 325 have single stage. Without an ecu flash, the 325/328 will be close to 330 power but not not equal it however it will restore much of the missing torque of the 325 bringing it out of the basement and into 328 range. The e90 328 makes about the same power as the e46 330 (actually the hp rating is between the standard 330 and the zhp).

Now tell me most-knowledgeable-one what **** I am just making up. Maybe you don't know as much as you think that you do



impolyt_one said:

They do a good job with that stuff though, both the 6GC and CLS shooting brake are very good looking cars for their respective genres considering that they're re-shelled plebe platforms. I'd say they're better looking than the CLS when it came out in 2004. The original CLS was something new-ish; the 6GC looks like what a BMW sedan should be in 2013, to me. It makes the 5er look almost unnecessary. The CLS shooting brake is aiming to be the coolest wagon on the market.

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All I can say is +1

Piobaire said:

If I was buying that would be the best advice. As I'm leasing I'm hoping they are indeed giving them away "for nothing." Model body changes are often awesome chances to get the retiring model for dirt cheap. It's why I'm paying a material amount less for my current 2012 GL than I was paying for my prior 2010 GL.

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I was actually thinking, that they would have some "old" stock they had to get rid of when it came out.

Rumpelstiltskin said:

impolyt_one said:

Are you just making this **** up? Nothing you've said is correct.

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Really?


In the e90/e92 body style, the 330 and the 325 were made in 2006 only.  2007 they switched to 328 and 335 turbocharged models.  This made the 255 hp 330 a desirable car on the used car market and they get snapped up very quickly.  BMW has been known for their silky smooth i-6 motors for quite some time now (many BMW purists frown at the thought of forced induction on any BMW other than limited run cars such as the 2002 turbo).  The 325 made 215 hp and the 328 made 230 but the 328 had a more torquey engine. The 330 had a zf ****** while the 325/328 have a gm ******.   This is common knowledge.

The 325/328/330 share the same 3.0 liter engine, the M52 (this is for US cars only.  European e90 325 had 2.5 liter engines).  The differences in hp and torque in the 3 models are due to 3 variables only: intake manifold, exhaust and software.  The 330 has a three stage intake manifold while the 328 and the 325 have single stage.  Without an ecu flash, the 325/328 will be close to 330 power but not not equal it however it will restore much of the missing torque of the 325 bringing it out of the basement and into 328 range. The e90 328 makes about the same power as the e46 330 (actually the hp rating is between the standard 330 and the zhp). 

Now tell me most-knowledgeable-one what **** I am just making up.  Maybe you don't know as much as you think that you do

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The 3.0l M52 wasn't used in E46s after 2001. The 3.0l M54 replaced it through the end of the E46 model run in the US. The 2006 E90 used the 3.0l N52 motor. There were substantial engineering improvements (materials, valve train, fuel injection, etc.) made in both M54 and N52 engines that go way beyond intake, exhaust, and software to account for the differences in power.



dah328 said:

The 3.0l M52 wasn't used in E46s after 2001. The 3.0l M54 replaced it through the end of the E46 model run in the US. The 2006 E90 used the 3.0l N52 motor. There were substantial engineering improvements (materials, valve train, fuel injection, etc.) made in both M54 and N52 engines that go way beyond intake, exhaust, and software to account for the differences in power.

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+1 (Except the 3L was always M54.)

This is my 03 Cl500. It is a flashy car that is very comfortable and fast for its weight and size. I also had a 05 bmw 525i which I sold. The Cl is by far a great affordable luxury car. The only thing that went bad on me was the active body control system aka. ABC. The shop I deal with narrowed it down to a faulty hydraulic pump. I have other cars ill keep you guys posted.



madeinman said:

This is my 03 Cl500. It is a flashy car that is very comfortable and fast for its weight and size. I also had a 05 bmw 525i which I sold. The Cl is by far a great affordable luxury car. The only thing that went bad on me was the active body control system aka. ABC. The shop I deal with narrowed it down to a faulty hydraulic pump. I have other cars ill keep you guys posted.

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A great luxury car indeed. The 215 is by far better looking than the current generation. Affordable? Keep us posted.



JayJay said:

A great luxury car indeed. The 215 is by far better looking than the current generation. Affordable? Keep us posted.

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I lol'd at the non-chalantness.

dah328 said:

The 3.0l M52 wasn't used in E46s after 2001. The 3.0l M54 replaced it through the end of the E46 model run in the US. The 2006 E90 used the 3.0l N52 motor. There were substantial engineering improvements (materials, valve train, fuel injection, etc.) made in both M54 and N52 engines that go way beyond intake, exhaust, and software to account for the differences in power.

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Typo - I meant N52 and that should have been obvious. In the e90 model line, there weren't any significant differences between the 325 and the 330 motor. BMW basically dumbed down the output by changing the intake manifold, putting in a more restrictive exhaust as well as different software. They even have the same ecu.