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post #181 of 26345
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Originally Posted by Stazy
I'm afraid those charts don't make any sense to me. I'm not much a car enthusiast...

I don't think I'll be keeping the car much longer, it doesn't handle Canadian winters very well, and doesn't stand a chance in the mountains (I live near the Rocky mountains). I think I'll be looking to get an Escalade, Navigator, or RR in the next year or so.

Escalades and Navigators are revolting machines -- I'd recommend avoiding. I'm not sure how they got tagged as being such "luxurious" cars, because they have all the fit and finish of a McDonald's Play Place.
post #182 of 26345
you clearly have not driven an Escalade. It is the smoothest ride - all butter. Gas mileage sucks @ 13.5 mpg using premium, but if you can afford it, phuck it.
post #183 of 26345
A Chrysler Crossfire (same engine as a MB SLK320)...




post #184 of 26345
04 Audi A8
04 Caddy SRX (I will be one of those guys in the Escalade this yr.)
67 Chevy Chevelle Vin-Mod 650 bhp at the wheels.
64 Mini Cooper wth V-tec same power to weight as an Enzo

Try to drive at least one American Ride!
post #185 of 26345
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Originally Posted by DanielNTX
A Chrysler Crossfire (same engine as a MB SLK320)...

In fact, the same platform as the last generation SLK. I think they're very nice cars.

--Andre
post #186 of 26345
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Originally Posted by Bergdorf Goodwill
Escalades and Navigators are revolting machines -- I'd recommend avoiding. I'm not sure how they got tagged as being such "luxurious" cars, because they have all the fit and finish of a McDonald's Play Place.
you ever drive either?
post #187 of 26345
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Originally Posted by jpeirpont
you ever drive either?

Both. They're fucking garbage.
post #188 of 26345
and when by chance was this? Where were you?
post #189 of 26345
Bergdorf...Everyone is entitled to their opinion that is why I am going to give mine...I have driven almost every "luxury" suv on the market. I have also owned a few. For you to say that the Nav and Sclades are..."f-ing garbage" is ABSOLUTLEY ludicrous. I love that kind of irrational exuberance that seems to flow from folks so often. It is unfortunate that you feel this way! I would be very interested to know what you drive? At this point in my life, just short of the new Bugatti, I am lucky enough to afford almost any car that is available. I will get either an Escalade, Denali or Suburban next. I must be a moron then again so must Motor Trend Magazine since they named those vehicles the trucks of the year predominately because of "styling, fit, and finish"! You know the other thing I see all to often are folks who bash the American Brands especially in the automotive sector. There was a time when the Big 3 were having their troubles against the foreign competition. The foreign cars are just not that much better anymore. But, the perception is they are so many folks find faults. Anyhow don't we live in AMERICA? Are we not AMERICANS? Should we not support the one industry that is around 15% of the GDP and around 18% of all R&D?
post #190 of 26345
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Originally Posted by jjgold
Bergdorf...Everyone is entitled to their opinion that is why I am going to give mine...I have driven almost every "luxury" suv on the market. I have also owned a few. For you to say that the Nav and Sclades are..."f-ing garbage" is ABSOLUTLEY ludicrous. I love that kind of irrational exuberance that seems to flow from folks so often. It is unfortunate that you feel this way! I would be very interested to know what you drive? At this point in my life, just short of the new Bugatti, I am lucky enough to afford almost any car that is available. I will get either an Escalade, Denali or Suburban next. I must be a moron then again so must Motor Trend Magazine since they named those vehicles the trucks of the year predominately because of "styling, fit, and finish"! You know the other thing I see all to often are folks who bash the American Brands especially in the automotive sector. There was a time when the Big 3 were having their troubles against the foreign competition. The foreign cars are just not that much better anymore. But, the perception is they are so many folks find faults. Anyhow don't we live in AMERICA? Are we not AMERICANS? Should we not support the one industry that is around 15% of the GDP and around 18% of all R&D?

The "America, fuck yeah!" argument is absurd and fallacious. A Honda is more "American" than a number of American vehicles would be at this point, if you want to talk parts/labor/cashflow. It's also an appeal to nationalism that I don't care about or agree with.

If you want to drive around a "stylish truck" then have at it, but no number of magazine awards will outweigh my own opinions to me, having sat in and driven these laughable boxes. Keep it rugged.
post #191 of 26345
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Originally Posted by dirk diggler
and when by chance was this? Where were you?

2005/2006, respectively. Ohio...?
post #192 of 26345
You know........it is not even worth it...I am going to try and find some Lobbs on ebay.
post #193 of 26345
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Originally Posted by jjgold
You know........it is not even worth it...I am going to try and find some Lobbs on ebay.

Every time you buy Lobb the fine shoemakers of Allen-Edmonds sob quietly to themselves in their Milwaukee headquarters. Won't you please think of America?
post #194 of 26345
I have to agree somewhat with Bergdorf here....Escalades, Navigators, Denalis, etc. are horrible. Basically, they are Chevy or Ford trucks that have an enclosed bed and fancy chrome plated grills/wheels and upgraded interiors with fancy options. They hold no residual value, and handle like crap. I actually laugh inside when I see someone driving such a rediculous machine.
post #195 of 26345
touce...that is why I said "look" not buy. The twenty some pair of Alden and Edmonds in my closet are not real excited about foreign comp. Of course you stated those vehicles were "f-ing garbage". The American Shoes that I like are not. Anyhow, the economic implications of the American Shoe industry does not have quite the same economic consequence as the auto industry but nice try.
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