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post #13291 of 14199
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Originally Posted by bawlin View Post

I don't get the fuss over the Cayman GTS.

Based on the Boxster S and Cayman S, the new GTS models benefit from an enhanced 3.4-liter flat six that produces 330 horsepower and 273 pound-feet of torque in the roadster or 340 hp and 280 lb-ft in the coupe – representing an increase of 15 hp and 7 lb-ft in either model. Both also come with the Sport Chrono package as standard, along with adjustable suspension and 20-inch alloys, blacked out to match the dynamic headlight surrounds and other muted trim.

I'd rather get the M235i.

The GTS is an S with all the performance accessories. The power difference is just the exhaust. It'll actually depreciate better than an S with options and be cheaper, so it is a bargain as long as you don't mind seat embroidery and are fine with black interior.

The GTS is a LOT more expensive and the M235i is a 235i with an M on it. Don't let the M distract you; it needs a better diff and stiffer bushings.
post #13292 of 14199
In college I worked for a guy who daily drove a vintage 911. I would guess late 70's/early 80s, no whale tail (not a fan), no frills, just a car that drove like it was on rails.

He lived downtown so his daily driver needs weren't high (and the wife had an SUV and he bought his dad a truck that he could use to tow his boat), but it was a fun car and its small size made it easy to park if you had to go somewhere. I got to drive it to go run errands or go pick up his kids from sports practice...just felt like it had such a direct connection to the road that modern electronics filled cars don't have. I don't recall him ever having issues with the car, but I suppose living in the city and having access to other vehicles means it wouldn't matter much if you couldn't drive it.

He got rid of it a few years back for a 997 though...a more capable and reliable car, but not quite as much soul (probably even more fun to drive though)
post #13293 of 14199
It doesn't take much time to realize how boring a refined, modern sports car is to drive on the street. It takes zero effort to do anything. An underpowered beater, like a mid-80s econobox, is a much more fun car do drive than a 997 on most roads because you're constantly working the car. That late 70s car you can get on boil in everyday driving, while a 997 you never make it work.
post #13294 of 14199
Very odd that this dealer is ordering loaded to the gills Individual M5/6's. But then again, it's LA.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/centurywestbmw/m.html?item=251472969511&forcerrptr=true&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3a8cf4ff27&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562





post #13295 of 14199
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Originally Posted by jfranci3 View Post

It doesn't take much time to realize how boring a refined, modern sports car is to drive on the street. It takes zero effort to do anything. An underpowered beater, like a mid-80s econobox, is a much more fun car do drive than a 997 on most roads because you're constantly working the car. That late 70s car you can get on boil in everyday driving, while a 997 you never make it work.

986 Boxster was fun to drive at 30mph. It wasn't all that fast in a straight line, the interior quality was shit, and you were always worried about an IMS failure tanking your engine. But that car was fun at any speed.
post #13296 of 14199
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Originally Posted by mbaum View Post

Pitching in on the horsepower discussion. The most satisfying driving experience of any Porsche I have ever put my hands on: 1956 356A - 60hp of eternal bliss behind your ass from the "Normal" engine. The car feels like it has double that horsepower and, from the beginning, Porsche knew it is the handling, not the power per se.

I will regret to all eternity that I ever sold this particular car. The best colors Porsche ever put on a car and, in my opinion, apart from early 911S cars, the fucking best street car Porsche ever made. Thank God I sold it to a friend and I know where it is ...

Mike



the elegance you can not comment ... but only love
post #13297 of 14199
Lol'd at a white mp4 with a Mcluvin license plate. I think it's been mentioned here before.
post #13298 of 14199
I saw that car on Fri. Can post a pic later.
post #13299 of 14199
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Originally Posted by jfranci3 View Post

It doesn't take much time to realize how boring a refined, modern sports car is to drive on the street. It takes zero effort to do anything. An underpowered beater, like a mid-80s econobox, is a much more fun car do drive than a 997 on most roads because you're constantly working the car. That late 70s car you can get on boil in everyday driving, while a 997 you never make it work.

It's always more fun to drive slow cars fast than fast cars slow.
post #13300 of 14199
I partially agree - stipulating that it has to be the right underpowered car. A 90's - 00's Corolla or Civic is not fun to drive under any circumstances (spoken as someone who's had more than a decade driving them in his not-so-mature youth), but an MX5 or the '56 Porsche above? Hell yes.
post #13301 of 14199
Ehh.. I had a ton of fun in my old Integra GS and Civic Si. But I've also had a lot of seat time in other 4-cylinder sh*tboxes (Corolla, Sentra, etc.) and I would rather walk than have to drive something like that.
post #13302 of 14199

No, no, going slow only works if the car is right:

1) Very old

2) Very light

3) Built with a purpose in mind (Honda Civic, you kidding, right?)

4) Rare

5) Can break easily

 

For your consideration: The best "Drives slow, feels fast, ass on the road" car: Abarth 750GT. Less than 60 hp from 750cc (pending your state of tune). You get a good one for $120k, ~250 made (We think …), Zagato hand made body, Abarth tuning genius, Fiat underpinnings. It does simply not get better than that. Entry to any concours event (Pending the condition and provenance of yours) an easily and cheaply raced (If you don't crash it) - And yes, I had a shitty one of those that I sold way too cheap (Then again it was shitty …).

 

Modern equivalent: None (Maybe the SubarToyota thingy comes close?).

 

Pics below:

1) A perfectly restored one

2) In action on the track (See what the "double bubbles" are for? Simple solution to a big problem and Zagato's claim to fame …)

3) With people to get a sense of size - Small, unbelievable fun

 

Mike

post #13303 of 14199
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Originally Posted by mbaum View Post
 

No, no, going slow only works if the car is right:

1) Very old

2) Very light

3) Built with a purpose in mind (Honda Civic, you kidding, right?)

4) Rare

5) Can break easily

 

For your consideration: The best "Drives slow, feels fast, ass on the road" car: Abarth 750GT. Less than 60 hp from 750cc (pending your state of tune). You get a good one for $120k, ~250 made (We think …), Zagato hand made body, Abarth tuning genius, Fiat underpinnings. It does simply not get better than that. Entry to any concours event (Pending the condition and provenance of yours) an easily and cheaply raced (If you don't crash it) - And yes, I had a shitty one of those that I sold way too cheap (Then again it was shitty …).

 

Modern equivalent: None (Maybe the SubarToyota thingy comes close?).

 

Pics below:

1) A perfectly restored one

2) In action on the track (See what the "double bubbles" are for? Simple solution to a big problem and Zagato's claim to fame …)

3) With people to get a sense of size - Small, unbelievable fun

 

Mike

Very nice atmosphere ... really.

post #13304 of 14199
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Originally Posted by bawlin View Post

Very odd that this dealer is ordering loaded to the gills Individual M5/6's. But then again, it's LA.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/centurywestbmw/m.html?item=251472969511&forcerrptr=true&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3a8cf4ff27&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562






Skittles.


The blue one could work the other two not so much, but if you look at some of the custom paint jobs / wraps people have it makes sense to order them in.

So on a car site, that someone had bought a brand new black with creme interior RR and changed it to white on black. rolleyes.gif
post #13305 of 14199
Saw the new McLaren P1 at my local Aston/McLaren dealership. Surprised it was still in the showroom and hasn't been sold. Cool car.
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