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My daily drive. Toyota engine and chassis with European badge. Very good gas milage and very easy to park. :)

 

 

Here is me looking like a tourist posing next to 007's car. Love the salesman's puzzled look.

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I really don't like it, the front wheel arch look funny.

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or will it sink, and float. :hide: 

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This one does. Lol.

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Thread took an unexpected turn for the lulz.
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There's still the Golf R.
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Well we have an R32, but a second one isn't out of the question. But even the VW dealer admits the newer ones aren't quite the same driving experience.

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yup, sticking with Subaru Impreza STI  as my tip.  5-Door hatch, AWD, high safety rating, nice interiors. great engineering, and fast as F#*k. smile.gif .   any chance you could test drive one? and tell us what you think? 

I think I will. We have a dealer nearby. I will wait until next week after this storm passes.
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Infiniti FX 37?

Hmmm, maybe I should try one. For some reason I skipped over this. Good idea.
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My '84 Mercedes Benz 500SEC Euro-Spec. Love this car. I think I will die before I get rid of it.

 

 

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The STI is seen as a kid's car in the US. Same baggage as the Evo.

I like the Mercedes above. A great example of what Mercedes could do before Chrysler ruined them
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The STI is seen as a kid's car in the US. Same baggage as the Evo.

I like the Mercedes above. A great example of what Mercedes could do before Chrysler ruined them
only in blue
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Couldn't they have just made it on a fiero or something? Why ruin an 8c??

 

 

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A true coach builder would have started from the bottom like Drake, Foose and the other guys who compete for the Ridler.

 

 

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Exactly!   a real "Builder" would start by making a chassis, and using suspension/driveline components from other cars to build a "made to measure" car.  

  and the styling looks like the illegitimate lovechild of a ferarri Enzo, and a 63' stingray. built by alfa.

 

not sure if it's a win looks wise, but still,  they only went half way.

 

 

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Uh, I am not checking in for a few days and you guys go all nuts over the Touring Alfa. 

 

Not debating the design of the new Touring Alfa 8C (I don't like it) but you got a few things wrong:

  • Foose and others are not considered coachbuilders - or a carozzeria - as they were known in the heydays in Italy. Foose is a true (And in my opinion, extremely good) fabricator with a deep hot rod tradition. That includes more than the design and body and often, as you pointed out, chassis and engine work
  • A traditional coachbuilder - Think Pininfarina, Zagato, Touring, or, outside Italy, Mulliner (UK), Park Ward (UK), Brewster (US), LeBaron (US), Karmann (Germany), etc. - only builds bodies/ interiors, usually on a rolling factory chassis with all mechanical components. 

 

The coach built tradition was the biggest in Italy until it died a slow death in the 70s. Often, Italian car makers like Alfa, Lancia, Fiat, etc. commissioned their sportier models or the convertibles to a coachbuilder. Smaller car makers like Ferrari, Maserati, etc. and of course all the eceterini stuff like Cisitalia, Abarth or Siata constantly collaborated with coachbuilders. That's probably the main reason why vintage Italian cars look so fucking sexy. Some survived, notably Pininfarina, which still designs and builds bodies for Ferrari for example. Others, like Zagato, became more of an industrial design shop.

 

Now, Touring is one of the most famous one from the golden era. They are tightly linked to Alfas and made some of the most beautiful ones, including some of the original 30's Alfa 8C and the stunning Disco Volante pictured above (Yes, it likely floats ...). As with others, they went belly up in the 60s (Causing some trouble for Lamborghini who had the Islero designed there and all of a sudden, found themselves without a contractor). The rights got purchased by a rich Belgian guy, who resurrected Touring in 2006.

 

It was also tradition in the 40s, 50s and 60s, that wealthy owners brought their cars to a coachbuilder, only to have them rip off the bodies and build something that they liked more or, in the case of Zagato, something that was lighter for racing. Surprisingly, there have been a few coachbuilt one-offs lately for some of the super rich. Especially Zagato got commissioned to design a few one-offs/ very low volume Ferraris and Alfas. Prices for those run north of $1.5M ...

 

With that, lesson over. For homework, check out a few of Touring's great designs from the 30s to the 60s and compare them to the shit boxes (including all of BMW) on the road today.

 

Mike

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my painter recently got a S600  2004-ish  for 10k. =  a steal.
so those looking for a "Luxury" car. can get the best, at a reasonable price.
Wait until he gets his first 5 figure repair bill...
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My '84 Mercedes Benz 500SEC Euro-Spec. Love this car. I think I will die before I get rid of it.
Love this car. Was my dream car as a kid.
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there are ways to verify the legitimacy of the companies and car condition. (ie: make a appointment to view, if you are spending the coin.. go the extra mile)  or you can employ a dealer to purchase to order from the car auctions on your behalf.  you can see the cars live, and bid. getting a sweet deal, and saving money. 
-  though it's a 2-3 month process for you guys to cover shipping etc.

those listings were just examples.  i would go the private/auction dealer route. 
and did it last year in my hunt for a 2000 Subaru forrester STI for mrs 38R. we had no luck, but it was fun.

my painter recently got a S600  2004-ish  for 10k. =  a steal.
so those looking for a "Luxury" car. can get the best, at a reasonable price.
really not a fan of german cars. but due to rapid depreciation, a decent one can be had cheap.  i only use that site as a guide for current wholesale prices.

hope this helps .

Help me understand the logic behind getting an used S600 for 10k. Theres likely to be high maintenance/repair bills, its a 10 year old model therefore impressing nobody, 0 resale value, and its 10k + maintenance in the hole. Ill bet my bonus he bought it for the badge.
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