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post #11071 of 14971
I'm really intrigued at the thought of owning an early 90's NSX as a weekend car down the road...

A more budget friendly option would be the S2000.
post #11072 of 14971
both good choices
post #11073 of 14971
New 918 blows away 'Ring record...
post #11074 of 14971
New i8 is likely a huge miss. 22 miles in 'lectric only mode and 40 mpg otherwise for $140k? I don't know why anyone would buy it over an R8 other than the few people who want it because it's new and unusual. From a performance standpoint, it's about as fast as a Tesla Model S - but with the vaunted BMW unreliability going for it and without the 200+ mile range. I saw one in camo on the street about a month ago and it was indeed low and wide so it's got that going for it and I'm sure it handles well, but I think they missed the boat on powertrain. No one is driving this thing 15k miles a year and if you really want green cred you drive a Tesla roadster already.

Throw in the 400 hp turbo i6 from the new m3 (sorry, m4 - another smooth move by BMW) and you'd have a legit R8 competitor.
post #11075 of 14971
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post

New 918 blows away 'Ring record...

A hollow victory. The P1 and LaFerrari will eat that record for lunch.

In comparison, the 918 is underpowered and overweight.
post #11076 of 14971
The P1 has recorded a time on the Ring, and it's 4 seconds slower. The Porsche looks like it has more to give --- that was a very smooth drive. The bumpiness of the Ring may also restrict times on the P1 and LaF.

Anyway, whomever has the fastest time, a sub-7 minute time on the Ring for a street car is just insane.
post #11077 of 14971
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

New i8 is likely a huge miss. 22 miles in 'lectric only mode and 40 mpg otherwise for $140k? I don't know why anyone would buy it over an R8 other than the few people who want it because it's new and unusual. From a performance standpoint, it's about as fast as a Tesla Model S - but with the vaunted BMW unreliability going for it and without the 200+ mile range. I saw one in camo on the street about a month ago and it was indeed low and wide so it's got that going for it and I'm sure it handles well, but I think they missed the boat on powertrain. No one is driving this thing 15k miles a year and if you really want green cred you drive a Tesla roadster already.

Throw in the 400 hp turbo i6 from the new m3 (sorry, m4 - another smooth move by BMW) and you'd have a legit R8 competitor.

+1
post #11078 of 14971
A lot of people will buy a car solely on looks. People with money. The i8 looks like nothing else on the road today; especially in the two-tone livery.
post #11079 of 14971
I think it's largely pointless to compare bleeding edge tech with cars in more standard gear. The 918, the Fisker, the i8 are about a journey towards something else... Just stepping stones. Doesn't make them right/wrong better/worse.

If I want to compare a McClaren and, what... A GT3? OK... but cars like the 918 are a technical exercise.
post #11080 of 14971
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

A hollow victory. The P1 and LaFerrari will eat that record for lunch.

In comparison, the 918 is underpowered and overweight.
As may be... Still beat all who came before.
post #11081 of 14971
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

New i8 is likely a huge miss. 22 miles in 'lectric only mode and 40 mpg otherwise for $140k? I don't know why anyone would buy it over an R8 other than the few people who want it because it's new and unusual. From a performance standpoint, it's about as fast as a Tesla Model S - but with the vaunted BMW unreliability going for it and without the 200+ mile range. I saw one in camo on the street about a month ago and it was indeed low and wide so it's got that going for it and I'm sure it handles well, but I think they missed the boat on powertrain. No one is driving this thing 15k miles a year and if you really want green cred you drive a Tesla roadster already.

Throw in the 400 hp turbo i6 from the new m3 (sorry, m4 - another smooth move by BMW) and you'd have a legit R8 competitor.

It's a new car of its kind, and very striking, at that.

People won't buy it for the range or gas savings, necessarily. People will buy it because they can and because they want to be seen in one.

No doubt it'll capture the gaze of EVERYONE it drives by.

It also has a damn nice exhaust note for a 3-banger.
post #11082 of 14971
Personally, I think that the auto industry reached its high water mark with the Ferrari 458. It's all downhill from now
post #11083 of 14971
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I've never heard any motorcycle exhaust that sounded pleasant to the ears.

If anything, they're just loud and annoying.

It's not common as most bikes people see are cruisers with that rumbly lumpy idle, but there are some. The exhaust on my CBR's I4 is very reminiscent of a BMW S54 I6 engine, for instance. Maybe it's nostalgia, but I like a parallel-twin near redline as well. Nowhere near as many tuneful bikes as their are cars, though.
post #11084 of 14971
Reveal's at the Frankfurt show...

Volvo Concept Coupe



Opel Monza



Infiniti Q30



Ferrari 458 Speciale



Jaguar C-X17



Mercedes S concept



Mercedes-Benz GLA



Smart FourJoy



Audi Sport Quattro, Nanuk Quattro concepts




Ford Mondeo Vignale





Citroën Wild Rubis



Lamborghini LP 570-4 Squadra Corse (aka Gallardo version next)



Cadillac Elmiraj & Ciel





Kia Nero Concept



BMW 4



Alpha Romeo 4C (production)



Citroën Cactus



Fisker Surf, Sunset




Rolls Wraith



Maser Ghibli, Kubang (greatest worst name ever), GranCabrio





Lexus LF-NX



And the Brabus 6x6

post #11085 of 14971
That Brabus is just... facepalm.gif.

It's douchier than the douchiest Hummer.
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