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post #10966 of 14953
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Originally Posted by henrikc View Post

A lot of Teslas popping up in Norway too. I read that we have the most Teslas after the US -- which makes sense, given that electric vehicles are exempt from any taxes. The Tesla starts at around $80-85 grand here, which would outherwise get you an entry-level Audi A6 2.0 TFSI or a VW Passat with some extras...
Combine that with free toll booth passings, free parking+charging in most major cities and at major office buildings (charging stations are operated by the city/employer) and perhaps most important, you're allowed to use the bus/taxi lane. The last part really saves a lot of times in congested cities.

Any similar advantages in the US as well?

In the US you get a $7500 tax credit -regardless of what you earn, and states have different incentives. In California for example you get $5000 credit. In my state you get a 50% discount on your car property tax assessment.

For Norway, those incentives are gold.
post #10967 of 14953
All this talk about tesla is kinda pointless as Elon will get somebody or the government to fund it and all the 'testers' of the technology are pretty irrelevant to the eventual path of the company as it probably won't be tesla paying for any potential issues.

Cost wise though yeah service and gas is way more for me on gas cars with weak oil valves (would say I'm at 8-9k spent at my mechanic though a good portion was sunk into an e31 and probably 4k for fuel this past 12 months). Probably get a tesla once it's more developed
post #10968 of 14953
Not enough charging stations in my neck of the woods to reasonably consider Tesla, not to mention there isn't a local dealership. I drive a lot daily and take road trips often.
post #10969 of 14953
Three Teslas in my neighborhood, and as far as I know, no public charging stations anywhere nearby. Assuming they are daily commuters.
post #10970 of 14953
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Originally Posted by JayJay View Post

Not enough charging stations in my neck of the woods to reasonably consider Tesla, not to mention there isn't a local dealership. I drive a lot daily and take road trips often.

Tesla Copenhagen has a van, that comes out and services cars on location.


The Model S, is only sellable here due to the tax exemption otherwise, it would be way to expensive, with tax with we would be talking 740d, RR SC etc. price.

Without tax they are 5 series and A6 money.
post #10971 of 14953
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Tesla Copenhagen has a van, that comes out and services cars on location.

They have this in my area also. Unless its a major issue, you don't need to take it to a service location.
post #10972 of 14953
The US tax credits are such a gift to the upper middle class blue states.
post #10973 of 14953
25k miles on s4, tires replaced, gearbox malfunction, ac crapping out. good times
post #10974 of 14953
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post

25k miles on s4, tires replaced, gearbox malfunction, ac crapping out. good times

I miss the days when owning a German car meant long-term, reliable transportation. They are now temperamental at low mileage. The local independent German car mechanic says that is why he now drives a Honda.
post #10975 of 14953
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Originally Posted by pocketsquareguy View Post

I miss the days when owning a German car meant long-term, reliable transportation. They are now temperamental at low mileage. The local independent German car mechanic says that is why he now drives a Honda.

Well, to BMW and Mercedes' defence (and Porsche), VW/Audi's are huge pieces of shit.
post #10976 of 14953
As shitty as it is to drive, my mechanic has offered to buy my aged Accord when we decide to move on- its a solid car.
post #10977 of 14953
BMW has had the same quality that it ever has. which is to say pretty good, but still pricey to maintain/replace wear items

Mercedes before 2000 was absolutely bulletproof. better than vaunted Honda IMO, but they went to absolute shit on a stick in the Daimler Chrysler years. I dunno where they are now, waiting for new Benz owners to chime in

Porsche has amazing quality. some people may quibble about the Cayenne, but the 911 is one of the most overengineered cars on earth. perhaps the only thing that seemed to be a recurring problem that I know of are the engine seals on some models (and the fact that people don't know how to drive them without stuffing them)

dunno about Audi. another marque that has a bad rap is VW, but my two Touaregs were completely problem free
post #10978 of 14953
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

BMW has had the same quality that it ever has. which is to say pretty good, but still pricey to maintain/replace wear items

Mercedes before 2000 was absolutely bulletproof. better than vaunted Honda IMO, but they went to absolute shit on a stick in the Daimler Chrysler years. I dunno where they are now, waiting for new Benz owners to chime in

Porsche has amazing quality. some people may quibble about the Cayenne, but the 911 is one of the most overengineered cars on earth. perhaps the only thing that seemed to be a recurring problem that I know of are the engine seals on some models (and the fact that people don't know how to drive them without stuffing them)

dunno about Audi. another marque that has a bad rap is VW, but my two Touaregs were completely problem free

Ha ha, I was just about to write the same thing about Merc and the Chrysler years. They were indeed shit. They are much better now, but not perfect.

My last 4 cars have been VW and Audi, all basically bulletproof. A few problems, but no more or less than any other car.

The only Audi I know to be a total shitter is that fail RS6 from a while back that was a nightmare. Every maker blows it occasionally. Its up to stupids to buy nightmare cars.

I generally never buy a totally new model, especially its 1st revision. Generally, if you want to buy a good car, buy a platform that has been around for a while. Now, I'm the guy writing I may get a Tesla, ha ha.

The general issue I see with modern cars is there are just so many more parts and components to fail. On the other hand, computers have improved auto quality immensely. Want to talk about hunks of shit, look at American cars in the 80's.
post #10979 of 14953
Between Mrs. Piob and me a collective twelve years of MB driving in the last six years. Not a single issue.
post #10980 of 14953
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Originally Posted by bawlin View Post

Well, to BMW and Mercedes' defence (and Porsche), VW/Audi's are huge pieces of shit.

I'm a member of a vag group forum and most their cars seem to have the build quality of Lancia's, I've seen '11 cars with rust etc.


The only cars I've seen with worse quality is Alfa, Lancia and Land Rover and not to mention VAG and LR are insanely expensive to mend.
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