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I'm surprised no one has started masturbating to the new BMW M4 pics that have been flying all over the internet. Though that yellow color is probably flurging everyone.

Just googled it and it's gorgeous and I don't mind the yellow at all.

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What is it? Does it just replace the 3-coupes?

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Yes, just like the 1 coupe and cab will be the 2 and to some degree the 6 series.



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post #10682 of 14199
I'm indifferent on the M4. Looks nice, but not for me. Not to mention it's probably going to cost around $85k which is creeping into 911 territory.
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Aside from the mechanical issues inherent to the E46 M3, it's by far the best modern, yet affordable M3 one can buy today. Furthermore, it's the best looking in stock form outside of the almost extinct E30 EVO M3.
post #10684 of 14199
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Shit, son! You dun goofed!

Can't talk 'bout e46s no'moh up in dis bitch!

Edit: Shit.. now that I think about it, I really want a manual e46 M3 too. How much is a good one with less than 50k miles these days? Preferably a 2004-2006 model. Prolly around $20k?
post #10685 of 14199
The E46 M3 is a classic. The major issue is that they are not cheap to maintain and I suspect that most pre-owned M3's for sale today have been neglected. Inspection 2 costs around $1,500... brakes aren't cheap, tires aren't cheap. It really adds up. So yes, you can buy one for like $15k (I'm pulling this number out of my ass - I have no idea how much they're going for these days) but that $15k is just the cost of admission. That said, it's a car that will always put a grin on your face, especially in sport mode.
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Originally Posted by bawlin View Post

The E46 M3 is a classic. The major issue is that they are not cheap to maintain and I suspect that most pre-owned M3's for sale today have been neglected. Inspection 2 costs around $1,500... brakes aren't cheap, tires aren't cheap. It really adds up. So yes, you can buy one for like $15k (I'm pulling this number out of my ass - I have no idea how much they're going for these days) but that $15k is just the cost of admission. That said, it's a car that will always put a grin on your face, especially in sport mode.

Yeah not really worth it since rare to find one low milage and you have no idea how previous owner(s) drove them. Dads friend went through a few e46s by blowing the engine since he just didnt care

And after the e31, e46 is my second favorite. E60 I'm driving now isn't bad neither but doesn't hold the special look / feel of older bimmers
post #10687 of 14199
I was cruising around and spontaneously decided to pull up into a Cadillac dealership to test drive an ATS -- the 2 liter turbocharged engine with a manual transmission -- out of pure curiosity on its driving dynamics and I felt so bad for the salesman.

It was obvious I knew much, much more about the car than he did and he kept telling me wrong answers or just couldn't answer my questions, period.

For example, I asked him if it had electric or hydraulic steering -- no idea.

Engine size? 4 liter turbo. LOL WUT.

Anyway, the car itself was nothing to write home about either. The clutch engagement was not great at all. I couldn't really tell the where the engagement point was and the shifter felt notchy and unrefined. Hate to keep bringing the E46 up (lol), but its shift action feels so right.

Pick up felt abysmal; didn't feel like 220 torques (been watching too much Top Gear) at all.

Worst of all was the Vue, or whatever it's called, touch-screen system. I've said it before and I'll say it again: touch-screen interfaces DO NOT WORK IN CARS. No matter how intuitive the OS is, it just feels clumsy and awkward. Haptic feedback doesn't help, either, but nice try, Cadillac.

Don't understand the hype at all around the ATS.

2/5.
post #10688 of 14199
A nice low mileage (less than 40k miles) ZCP runs high 20's these days, so almost 30K. The main issues are VANOS, and subframe cracks. PPI's are a must on these cars. Your best bet is to buy one of these from an enthusiast who has upgraded the VANOS systems with the beisan systems as well as reinforced the subframe with the TMS kit. These cars can run reliably beyond 200k easily provided proper maintenance is upheld.The E46 M3 is legendary; shall not be censored in this thread.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Imagine this being your daily commute to work.

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Although I don't condone how reckless the guy is. Fucking accident waiting to happen!
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I have to make a choice of company car between Lexus CT hybrid, Audi A4, BMW 1-series 5-door and Mercedes A class. I love Lexus and always admired their quality fit and finish, I also appreciate how unique this little hybrid is in it's interior design and fuel economy. Not impressed with engine performance and speed 0-60 around 10 sec. The BMW is a nice option with 184Hp in a small package with all wheel drive and 6-speed manual. Mercedes and Audi my least fav.
Although Merc has some unusually high and flat torque , I still need to test drive it though.
Decisions decisions.
Need to stay under 37,500EUR for the total.
post #10691 of 14199
The A4 is pretty nice - my friend and I just completed a 300 mile road trip in one and I think it's a nice car with good features for a no-frills price. It's also a class above all your other options.

I hate that Lexus Prius. Well, I hate all Priuses, but that one worse because it's more expensive. Might as well get the Toyota version
post #10692 of 14199
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

I have to make a choice of company car between Lexus CT hybrid, Audi A4, BMW 1-series 5-door and Mercedes A class. I love Lexus and always admired their quality fit and finish, I also appreciate how unique this little hybrid is in it's interior design and fuel economy. Not impressed with engine performance and speed 0-60 around 10 sec. The BMW is a nice option with 184Hp in a small package with all wheel drive and 6-speed manual. Mercedes and Audi my least fav.
Although Merc has some unusually high and flat torque , I still need to test drive it though.
Decisions decisions.
Need to stay under 37,500EUR for the total.


I don't like the look of the Lexus.
The A4 is a bit larger than the rest.
1 and A are about the same, although I would go bmw every time.
post #10693 of 14199
I would wager that the A4 is going to be a little quieter and softer than the rest, and if its a company car that means you'll be traveling a fair distance. I'd appreciate that higher level of isolation after a long day.
post #10694 of 14199
Given the choices, I'd take the A4.
post #10695 of 14199
A4 looks like an obvious choice on US market, because the base model comes with 211Hp 6cyl & leather, where is in Scandinavia the A4 for 48,000USD comes with 150Hp diesel & cloth. at best. I'll definitely test it but I am leaning towards BMW 1-X-drive with 184Hp and 6 speed. It will come down to who makes better manual transmission and clutch action for me. As far as driving I am not going to drive a lot, it is just a benefit car. However I would consider buying this car from my company at the end of the business lease and don't want to be stuck with a car that has spotty reliability record.
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