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post #16 of 45
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Originally Posted by iammatt
I don't doubt the expertise of the shoemakers at all. I think the shoes are very, very good.

Lattanzi's RTW shoes are better made, more comfortable, have more handwork, better leathers and better antiquing. FWIW, even the guy who oversees the Kiton shoe shop doesn't see them as in the same league. Scafora is somewhere in the middle IMO, but others might reasonably disagree.

I don't know if everybody agrees with me about the level of their shoes. I know that the people who make and sell Kiton shoes agree with me. I don't think that Kiton means to make a shoe that is at the same level as a Lattanzi. That is not their niche. They mean to be better than EG or JLP. It is more of a hand made factory product than a truly artisanal product.
Iammatt, do you know where RTW Lattanzis are sold in North America and what they cost? And are they readily available (in obviously small quantities) in Italy? What would they cost from a shoe shop in Italy or from a factory store (if there is one) directly from Lattanzi? I might get to Italy within the next year.
post #17 of 45
Thread Starter 
Silvano has a nice store on a side street in Rome near the main shopping area. Terrific selection and he stops by once a month I am told. I got some beautiful black loafers. I will try to post some pics of them. They were cheaper in Italy than here but there was a better exchange rate then (1999 and 2000).

I had some MTM done at Louis and they are possibly the finest dress shoes I have next to my Jason Amesburys-a tie really. His leather quality is superb. I'll post pics of those as well.
post #18 of 45
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Originally Posted by Tomasso
Kiton is a fine maker but at times prone to hyperbole, probably meant to justify the surcharge.

You must be joking

You'd think they would have the rights to the exculsive leather than only happens when the feed, weather, sun and moon were at the perfect angle on the spring of 06. hence Lattanzi couldn't possibly have the materials Kiton has. lol

Teasing aside, Lattanzi pics are always welcome as are Kiton

Lattanzi Leathers better than Vass.?
http://www.zintala.com/
post #19 of 45
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Originally Posted by iammatt
I don't doubt the expertise of the shoemakers at all. I think the shoes are very, very good.

Lattanzi's RTW shoes are better made, more comfortable, have more handwork, better leathers and better antiquing. FWIW, even the guy who oversees the Kiton shoe shop doesn't see them as in the same league. Scafora is somewhere in the middle IMO, but others might reasonably disagree.

I don't know if everybody agrees with me about the level of their shoes. I know that the people who make and sell Kiton shoes agree with me. I don't think that Kiton means to make a shoe that is at the same level as a Lattanzi. That is not their niche. They mean to be better than EG or JLP. It is more of a hand made factory product than a truly artisanal product.

I guess the quality difference between Kiton & Lattanzi is reflected by the difference in retail price in the US. At Bergdorf Goodman a pair of Kiton retails for $2000, Lattanzi $3000.
post #20 of 45
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It is more of a hand made factory product than a truly artisanal product.

I agree...Kiton shoes are nice, but they are definately not the best
post #21 of 45
Lattanzi make Brioni shoes.
post #22 of 45
You can find them at Brioni boutiques for about 30 percent cheaper than the comparable Lattanzi model judging from mussel's prices --- about $2200 the last time I was in the Brioni store in LA a few weeks ago. They're very nice shoes, and I'd rather have a pair of them than Kiton's shoes, which I think are a bit overrated. Unfortunately, they only have D fittings, so if you have a narrow or wide foot, you may be out of luck.

--Andre
post #23 of 45
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Originally Posted by whoopee
Lattanzi make Brioni shoes.
I've read this a lot. Whoopee (or anyone), do you know how long this has been true. I picked up a pair of Brioni shoes a while back that, on inspection, I don't think were made by Lattanzi. These were probably made several years ago--maybe longer--and my hunch is that they were made by one of the other Italian cordwainers like StefanoBi, Sutor Mantellassi, or Santoni. The seller didn't know, and I'd be interested in tracking down the actual maker.
post #24 of 45
Lattanzi shoes made under other labels, be it Brioni, Asprey, Jil Sanders or Zintala (which is the name of SL's company), are not the same as ones under its own label which accounts for the retail price difference.
post #25 of 45
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Originally Posted by von Rothbart
Lattanzi shoes made under other labels, be it Brioni, Asprey, Jil Sanders or Zintala (which is the name of SL's company), are not the same as ones under its own label which accounts for the retail price difference.
I am not sure that this is correct. From what I understand, the make is exactly the same, just the markup is different. I believe that he sets the price on the shoes marked "Silvano Lattanzi", but does not on the other label shoes. Some of the styling can be a bit different.
post #26 of 45
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Originally Posted by von Rothbart
Lattanzi shoes made under other labels, be it Brioni, Asprey, Jil Sanders or Zintala (which is the name of SL's company), are not the same as ones under its own label which accounts for the retail price difference.

Good point VR. I will add that the Jil Sander and Brioni Lattanzis that I have inspected come remarkably close to the quality of the Lattanzi badged ones that I've seen.
post #27 of 45
Construction wise they are the same but the finishes are much better under the Lattanzi label.
post #28 of 45
For example the Lattanzi Asquit model I saw had a wonderful lively antique finish. A similar model under Brioni or Zintala label had an one dimensional finish.
post #29 of 45
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Originally Posted by von Rothbart
For example the Lattanzi Asquit model I saw had a wonderful lively antique finish. A similar model under Brioni or Zintala label had an one dimensional finish.
I think that what you find is that the Lattanzi store stocks more interesting finishes than the other stores. For example a Asquit in finish T. Morro will be the same no matter who stocks it, but the Asquit serie Arancio will be much more interesting and uncique. I have only seen it at the Lattanzi store. Both finishes cost the same at Lattanzi. I think it is more a case of Sig. Lattanzi knowing his merchandise better and having better vision than the other buyers.
post #30 of 45
Well, I will certainly give you the vision thing. I've only actually held one pair of Lattanzi shoes in my hands (a pair of womens loafers at that), but it was immediately clear that I was in the presence of greatness. The construction and design oozed the flamboyance of genius and they were executed with a perfection and confidence that just made them walk on air.
I'd like to see Sig. Lattanzi and Koji Suzuki at twenty paces.
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