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post #151 of 169
Really tough to say. I don't think it's a complete slam dunk for lebron either. 3 completely different players and you'd have to build 3 completely different teams around them. I think most will just say lebron, but i think all 3 give you almost an equal chance to win a title. As of right now, the cavs have the best team around lebron for his style of play. Magic/hornets don't have the rebounding, depth, or defense to win a title.
post #152 of 169
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Really tough to say. I don't think it's a complete slam dunk for lebron either. 3 completely different players and you'd have to build 3 completely different teams around them. I think most will just say lebron, but i think all 3 give you almost an equal chance to win a title. As of right now, the cavs have the best team around lebron for his style of play. Magic/hornets don't have the rebounding, depth, or defense to win a title.

Yeah, I'd probably say Lebron or Howard. It is such an advantage to have a real big man in this league - see Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, Shaq. You make your team competitive for your entire career essentially, almost regardless of what's around you.
post #153 of 169
Yea, but then again, having an elite playmaking point guard who can also score 20ppg is really helpful too. I mean, all you need to do is do what the hornets did and add a bunch of slightly above average players around him and they're instant playoffs in the west with a chance to make the western finals (don't think they can win as is). Magic don't really have a chance to win the title either. If they get anyone but the pistons in round one, they'll win in 5 or 6, but i don't think they can win 2 series against the pistons/cavs/celtics.
post #154 of 169
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Yea, but then again, having an elite playmaking point guard who can also score 20ppg is really helpful too. I mean, all you need to do is do what the hornets did and add a bunch of slightly above average players around him and they're instant playoffs in the west with a chance to make the western finals (don't think they can win as is).

Both the arguments are valid. A team can get by with either a really good center or really good point guard, but unless they can at least balance both they're not going anywhere
post #155 of 169
I agree. As i said in my first post about those 3, you need the right pieces around them. With lebron, he's a scorer who can also create so you need to pair him with rugged rebounders/defenders down low and some shooters on the wing. Dwight needs to have lots of shooters to space the floor and a slasher to create passing lanes (the magic desperately need this) and a 4spot who can shoot. When you get a truly special player, it sometimes takes a few seasons to figure out how to build a team around them.
post #156 of 169
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Originally Posted by MetroStyles View Post
Who would you rather start a team around - Lebron, Paul, or Howard?

I'd go with Lebron first, then Paul.
post #157 of 169
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Originally Posted by chronoaug View Post
a slasher to create passing lanes (the magic desperately need this) and a 4spot who can shoot.

Rashard can fill that 4 spot if you get a good slashing swingman who'll save rashard the trouble of having to switch off all the time. When I think of slashers, besides the obvious kobe answer I just think that michael finley back in the day would have been perfect. As for now, there doesn't seem to be anyone who fits that description that the magic can get.
post #158 of 169
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I'd go with Lebron first, then Paul.

If I was the GM, I would vary it depending on what kind of coach I had. The average coach will do fine with Howard, just plug him into the paint and watch everyone else have an easier time, but a coach who isn't creative offensively would just waste Lebron's talent.
post #159 of 169
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If I was the GM, I would vary it depending on what kind of coach I had. The average coach will do fine with Howard, just plug him into the paint and watch everyone else have an easier time, but a coach who isn't creative offensively would just waste Lebron's talent.

Howard is great. I just think Lebron does the most for a team. Passing, rebounding, scoring, defense. Paul can't rebound or defend as wide a variety of players as well as LBJ. Howard isn't as good a passer or scorer.
post #160 of 169
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Originally Posted by robertorex View Post
If I was the GM, I would vary it depending on what kind of coach I had. The average coach will do fine with Howard, just plug him into the paint and watch everyone else have an easier time, but a coach who isn't creative offensively would just waste Lebron's talent.

If I was GM, I think I'd also consider the players around them. Lets say you have a decent PG and center, maybe you go with Durant after LBJ then.
post #161 of 169
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If I was GM, I think I'd also consider the players around them. Lets say you have a decent PG and center, maybe you go with Durant after LBJ then.

No offense meant, but as chronoaug raised earlier in the thread Durant doesn't even belong in this discussion. In terms of franchise superstars as LBJ, Howard, and Paul are, Durant and OKC have yet to prove themselves.
post #162 of 169
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Originally Posted by robertorex View Post
No offense meant, but as chronoaug raised earlier in the thread Durant doesn't even belong in this discussion. In terms of franchise superstars as LBJ, Howard, and Paul are, Durant and OKC have yet to prove themselves.
No offense taken at all. I know he isn't on their level yet. I do think he'll get there eventually though.
post #163 of 169
I do feel bad about Oden and Portland. Really thought they had big things going for them, and Oden is by far the most snakebitten kid in the NBA. Will he ever really get healthy?
post #164 of 169
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I do feel bad about Oden and Portland. Really thought they had big things going for them, and Oden is by far the most snakebitten kid in the NBA. Will he ever really get healthy?
Can you say Michael Olowokandi?
post #165 of 169
I was gonna compare him to Yinka Dare (love the classics) but let's hope it never comes to that.
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