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post #106 of 148
Pretty sure that drafting any QB in this year's draft in the top 10 is a big mistake.
post #107 of 148
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post
Pretty sure that drafting any QB in this year's draft in the top 10 is a big mistake.

I'd agree with that. But there are mistakes, and there are mistakes.
post #108 of 148
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
I'd agree with that. But there are mistakes, and there is Jamarcus Russell.
Though in fairness I think Newton has the potential to make it to that level.
post #109 of 148
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Though in fairness I think Newton has the potential to make it to that level.

I think he has the potential to make it to the Jamarcus Russell level too.
post #110 of 148
Russell flamed out of the NFL because of his lack of passion for the game of football. I don't see that problem with Newton. I think Newton has the strong chance of becoming Vince Young 2.0, however. He ran a simple offense at Auburn and won a national championship because of his superior athletic ability. He's going to discover that everyone is a great athlete at the professional level, and that practice and film study are the difference between decent and great. Considering that Newton was (rumored to have been) kicked out of Florida because of academic cheating, I wonder if that's going to happen.
post #111 of 148
Also, being drafted by one of the most dysfunctional organizations in pro sports doesn't help out a lot, especially if you aren't - as you noted - the most motivated guy ever.

When the whole team is circling the drain - it's easy to be a turd.
post #112 of 148
Right ^^

I think that the idea that "the teams make the players" and not "the players make the teams" is completely lost during draft time. What I mean is that a player drafted by Pitt, NE, Indy etc have a much better chance of succeeding compared to a player drafted by Ari, Det, Oak.

That being said, I think the Panthers taking a QB would be a bad decision, simply because there are no QB's worth a damn in this class. I'm of the opinion that teams should take the best available player, but with a few exceptions; AJ Green being an example. It's overstated that receivers can make a qb/rb better. It sounds good in theory but does not produce results in effect.

I could be wrong on this, but I feel that O-lineman, DBs, and nose tackles are the 'safest' bets for a top 5 selection. IMO the only option for #1 overall is Patrick Peterson.
post #113 of 148
"If Andy Dalton didn't have red hair, would he be a Top-15 pick?"

post #114 of 148
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"If Andy Dalton didn't have red hair, would he be a Top-15 pick?"


https://spreadsheets.google.com/spre...nc&output=html

Out of the "top seven" IMO, Dalton specifically is the most underrated QB in this draft. Throw out wins and etc. He has the most passes attempted, with the best completion percentage, with the fewest interceptions of any of the QB in those stats. He was right behind Newton and Mallet in 2010 with 9YPA.

Is it his hair? I dunno. But I'd be excited if he ended up on my team. Might even take him at 25, depending on what the board looks like. I like Kaepernick in the 2nd if he's around too.
post #115 of 148
The whole Cam Newton/Vince Young argument is interesting. Crappy disposition aside (and I'm not saying to discount that in the slightest if you're thinking of picking him up), Vince is 30-17 as a starter. So if Cam is as productive as Vince but less of an asshole, is it worth taking him? I know people say you can't always count their record, but if a guy wins every where he goes that has to say something. Mediocre college QBs don't suddenly become starters in the NFL. For every Kurt Warner, there is a Charlie Frye. Jay Cutler never led a team to a championship and any level. The Panthers have many greater needs than QB--they went to the Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme for God's sake. They have no receivers, their defense is thin, and their o-line isn't up to snuff. If you're the Cardinals, isn't Cam worth the risk? Especially if you get enough of the right guys around him. As a Skins fan I'd be terrified of having him here because we don't have enough good guys to surround him with. But it would be tantalizing to imagine.
post #116 of 148
Lol @ Carolina
post #117 of 148
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Lol @ Carolina

indeed.
post #118 of 148
who would have thought the tornados weren't the worst thing to happen to carolina this month
post #119 of 148
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who would have thought the tornados weren't the worst thing to happen to carolina this month



this guy is the #1 pick....

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post #120 of 148
i am glad we live in a post racial america where we can call him dumb without reprisal
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