The best "deal" is probably the VBC. The standard, non super H&S cloths will cost around $1250-1300 for a 2 piece suit. Chan don't have many books in those, though, just the Crispaires (great stuff, especially for So. Cal). They also have Scabal Supers (100, 120) that run about $1400-1600. I prefer the former, incl their 120's (Target). That is a very nice book. For your first suit that is not liable to turn out perfect, and because it will need to be adjusted more than the latter, you'll probably want to order a VBC 120's (or 110's, which is a bit cheaper) solid or textured solid. I think it's at least equal to the heavier LPs (they don't get that heavy), while less expensive. Later on, when your pattern is down and you develop preferences, you will appreciate the better fabrics. You may even seek out your own cloths. I've never seen and touched any Clayton cloths that aren't supers. I've never made an effort, though. Maybe they carry those, too. I suspect they would be as good as the VBCs.