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post #1 of 40
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So...

As I've mentioned in the Cribs thread, I'm working on a total remodel of an older home. Part of the remodel is including all new lighting throughout the house. Obviously this is a huge investment in new fixtures, switches, dimmers, etc.

Well, the big incandescent ban is coming up, and it's going to be 2012 before we know it, at which point, if my understanding is correct, the phase-out of incandescent light bulbs (starting with 100 watt bulbs) will begin.

This sounds to me like a disaster, as I am going to be spending on fixtures and dimmers that may not fit or work with whatever new technologies are coming. For example, the dimmable CFL bulbs currently available are HUGE and will not fit in ordinary ceiling mounts. I don't know if controls are different either. And since a lot of my lighting is going to be track lighting for the purposes of displaying artwork (paintings and photography), getting the proper hue is also important, which I understand can be an issue with some of the LED technologies, even as it's gotten better with CFLs.

All this is making me very nervous about spending a lot of money on fixtures and controls without some evaluation of the future. But I can't seem to find very much reliable info out there. My architect is something of a lighting pro, as he's done the lighting in several museums, but he's also old-school and just plain old, so he's not really been helpful here. He's spec'ing his old reliables and doesn't seem to know much about the future, except in recommending some fiber optic system which sounded incredible but is also unobtainable, price-wise, for me.

I know there are those among you who geek out on this stuff. I would appreciate any info anyone has to share.
post #2 of 40
are you asking if the government is gonna come knock on your door and take the lights from your home?
post #3 of 40
I don't have anything substantive to contribute here. Just that my heart skipped a beat when I read the thread title!
post #4 of 40
I hate CFLs. I've tried, really really hard to accept the illumination they provide, but I dislike the hue they cast. I hope LEDs work. In the meantime, they can have my incandescents when they pry them from my cold dead fingers.
post #5 of 40
Wow, I had no idea. Literally yesterday, I had a dozen incandescent recessed lights installed in my new-to-me home. I considered other options, but the consensus seemed to be that LED is not there yet. I believe in the techology and have a feeling that LED will be the standard soon, the operative word being "soon."

I "upgraded" to CFLs in my old house, and did not like them much. Warm up time, color, longevity, and un-dimmer-ability were all issues for me. I hear that the new CFLs are dimmable, but again, I don't want to deal with that when I think LEDs will be the next wave.

I hope you will keep us posted on what you decide, as I will eventually need to light the rest of the house.
post #6 of 40
There have been a couple of articles recently on LEDs. GE, Philips, and some others basically have the technology now and will introduce LED lights later this year. They're expensive, though, with the GE ones selling for $40-60/pop for a 40w light. They're supposed to last for 17 years!
post #7 of 40
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They're supposed to last for 17 years!

CFLs are supposed to last for a number of years, but I've had quite a few burn out in less than a year.
post #8 of 40
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There have been a couple of articles recently on LEDs. GE, Philips, and some others basically have the technology now and will introduce LED lights later this year. They're expensive, though, with the GE ones selling for $40-60/pop for a 40w light. They're supposed to last for 17 years!

I've seen a bit of info on lights like these, but I have yet to figure out if they'll fit fixtures being manufactured now. Are they dimmable? Do they have that awful blue tinge?

Not to mention that at $100 or so for a 100W equivalent, they're frighteningly pricey to outfit a full home. I know they pay for themselves... but in like 8 years! And that's provided they actually live up to the longevity claims...
post #9 of 40
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CFLs are supposed to last for a number of years, but I've had quite a few burn out in less than a year.

Yeah, me too. And it's also frightening to read what you're supposed to do if you break one, what with the mercury content. Dunno if it's overhype (I used to play with mercury in my bare hands after breaking thermometers) but you're supposed to open a window and ventilate the room for 15 minutes, etc. etc. Scary when you're the parent of a 1-year old.
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I've seen a bit of info on lights like these, but I have yet to figure out if they'll fit fixtures being manufactured now. Are they dimmable? Do they have that awful blue tinge?

Not to mention that at $100 or so for a 100W equivalent, they're frighteningly pricey to outfit a full home. I know they pay for themselves... but in like 8 years! And that's provided they actually live up to the longevity claims...

I've been using CFLs in my house for the past 10 years. And yeah, they some do burn out less than a year, though majority of them seem to last somewhere between 3 to 4 years. I also make sure to get CFL's in "warm white" as against that blue tinge you mentioned. I don't know how much it costs there, but an Osram 18w CFL would cost me around $6 here.
post #11 of 40
You can order your bulbs from overseas. However, this is one of the more absurd things the "green movement" has spawned.
post #12 of 40
yeah i import my bulbs
post #13 of 40
I converted to CFLs two years ago. There are a few little annoyances, but you get over those pretty quickly. The change did lower my electric bill. As for LEDs, I have tried a couple of diferent products. One was a small replacement bulb for night lighting. (Don't bother.) More recently, I have tried some high-output desk task lamps with mixed success. You have to remember that unlike an incandescent bulb, which is a modified resistor heating element, an LED is a component on a circuit board and is a much more complicated device. I have had three "high-output" LEDs fail on me and spontaneously go from being a continuous light source to being a slow strobe, and thus useless. I do not think the LED industry is up to speed yet when it comes to reliability of the product, and they are very costly.
post #14 of 40
Time to stock up on my GE Reveals.
post #15 of 40
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Time to stock up on my GE Reveals.
I have some hoarding to do, too.
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