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post #181 of 261
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Originally Posted by milosz View Post
Aside from Crane's, I don't think anyone has a problem with eating as well as you can for what you can afford.

But you're kind of jerking yourself off to show how awesome your ingredients are. People would be less unimpressed if you showed how you made your own sausage or traditionally butchered a pig and used it.

I do believe you just paid me a compliment.
post #182 of 261
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Originally Posted by milosz View Post
But you're kind of jerking yourself off to show how awesome your ingredients are. People would be less unimpressed if you showed how you made your own sausage or traditionally butchered a pig and used it.
Read my original post. I don't see much jerking myself off there, as enjoyable as it is. The ingredient lists came out as a response to the numerous individuals who started commenting on cost and how it could be done cheaper or with "manlier" choices of meat.
post #183 of 261
If you were to post your experiences on a forum populated by foodies, people who are accustomed to higher levels of spending on food, it would probably be more widely embraced. Extravagant clothing budgets are revered here, not extravagant food budgets.

It's a common joke on SuFu to make the decision to eat ramen for a month to afford a new cop. Many people are more accustomed to shopping for the BEST DEALS on food, not seeking out the highest priced filets they can get their hands on.

I eat a really healthy diet, but I definitely go out of my way to save money where I can.
post #184 of 261
Seriously, ya'll need to step back.
I don't see how he could do what he is doing for very much less. Sure he could eat healthy for less and he could lose weight for less but good food costs for all the reasons he just mentioned. Not the least of which is the fact that he lives in NY and is willing to pay a premium to do so and to support the farms that are doing the type of farming he believes in.

At the end of the day he is spending his money on one of the great joys in life and doing so in a socially responsible manner. What's not to like?

I think I'll go snack on some organic strawberries.

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Really?

As I've said numerous times, I am VERY aware I could have achieved some of the same results (e.g. weight loss, etc.) for the same cost. I could eat a 500 calories deficit on $2-3 dollars a day. Yes, but how many times do I have to say this: that was not the fucking point!. You cannot eat the same foods that I do for "significantly less cost" because you fail to factor in anything but the end cost of the product.

You said that you kill and or grow all your own food. Good for you. This is not practical where I live. Where you live, the nearest and most significant attraction for miles is the interstate. There are other things to do here, and the opportunity cost of not participating in them is far greater than missing an evening of moose watching and western grip handjobs. Then you suggested that people should grow their own tomatoes on a window sill, etc. Yes, I can spend $30 (or more) on soil, water, seeds, fertilizer, insecticide, a planter, etc. and have a yield of ten tomatoes in a several months and hope they taste good. Or, I can go to the market and spend less on the same amount of tomatoes in five minutes. You cannot compete with economies of scale of a supermarket when you factor in time, convenience, and distance traveled. It is enormously reductive to simply compare one factor (oh, they're now "free" six months later because I planted them). Therefore for many of the things I eat I am coincidentally paying the lowest cost based on my location and effort.

Do you have access locally to the following foods that I've eaten in the last week, for significantly less prices then I paid?

Wild Alaskan Salmon
Halibut (fresh caught, never frozen)
Rockfish (fresh caught, never frozen)
Chilean Sea Bass (from a sustainable Georgian fishery)
USDA graded prime filets
Fresh Lobster from Maine off the boat the same day
Certified organic milk
A lobe of Foie Gras from Hudson Valley
A flat of strawberries
Fresh tropical fruit (Kiwis, Mangos, Pineapples, Papayas, Bananas)

I very much doubt it.

You have no point. I could drive into the country, shoot a deer (I'd have to borrow a gun or maybe pick up of those axes in Tribeca and attempt to throw it at the deer), somehow put it in the partially functional back seat of my coupe, attempt to cut it up and eat. But I don't want to. I have no interest in doing so. I own none of the equipment to do so and the cost of purchasing said equipment would quickly eliminate any value proposition. I certainly respect that you a) own the equipment to do so b) have the interest in doing so c) have the skills to do so d) have the time to do so. A, B, C, D aggregate to make genuine cost, which for me, would be far more expensive than what I am spending now.

Finally, there is the element of social responsibility. I actively seek to support venues which place an emphasis on fair employee compensation, proper benefits, community involvement and outreach, etc. I have no problem paying more for an identical product sold in a place that treats its employees fairly. I know that for fruit, I pay approximately 25% more than I would down the street at the store where employees are paid approximately half and are not eligible for benefits. Not sure how many times I can say it: cost was NOT the point.
post #185 of 261
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post
Seriously, ya'll need to step back.
I don't see how he could do what he is doing for very much less. Sure he could eat healthy for less and he could lose weight for less but good food costs for all the reasons he just mentioned. Not the least of which is the fact that he lives in NY and is willing to pay a premium to do so and to support the farms that are doing the type of farming he believes in.

At the end of the day he is spending his money on one of the great joys in life and doing so in a socially responsible manner. What's not to like?

I think I'll go snack on some organic strawberries.
Oh, I think it is fine. However, his list of likes is as interesting as Journey and Night Ranger.
post #186 of 261
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
Oh, I think it is fine. However, his list of likes is as interesting as Journey and Night Ranger.

Tough crowd. Give me some time.
post #187 of 261
I envy your discipline. What about alcohol consumption? Also, do you allow yourself any time for stank on the hang-low? The shopping, preparation and cooking is a 2nd job in itself.
post #188 of 261
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Originally Posted by baba booey View Post
I envy your discipline. What about alcohol consumption? Also, do you allow yourself any time for stank on the hang-low? The shopping, preparation and cooking is a 2nd job in itself.

+1. I'm about to lock down my diet (although much cheaper) but my high quality scotch/bourbon/beer diet will continue regardless.
post #189 of 261
Wow...this thread was full of promise way back when.
post #190 of 261
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Originally Posted by DNW View Post
Wow...this thread was full of promise way back when.

It still has a lot of promise. Dude just has to stop responding to everyone who talks shit on the internet. That's how you get 18,000 posts in under 3 years, and nobody wants to be that fucking loser.
Still, I feel bad b/c I kind of started the ball rolling w/ my more flavorful cut comment.
post #191 of 261
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post
It still has a lot of promise. Dude just has to stop responding to everyone who talks shit on the internet. That's how you get 18,000 posts in under 3 years, and nobody wants to be that fucking loser.
Still, I feel bad b/c I kind of started the ball rolling w/ my more flavorful cut comment.

Maybe it's time to go barricade yourself, chatterbox.
post #192 of 261
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Originally Posted by DNW View Post
Maybe it's time to go barricade yourself, chatterbox.

My genius is a gift, and I intend on sharing it.
post #193 of 261
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Originally Posted by rjmaiorano View Post
+1. I'm about to lock down my diet (although much cheaper) but my high quality scotch/bourbon/beer diet will continue regardless.

Trying to be healthy and follow a diet while continuing to drink is counterproductive. Not only is alcohol loaded with calories (a single shot of liqueur can contain anywhere from 115-200 calories) it also lowers testosterone and dramatically slows your bodies ability to burn fat.
post #194 of 261
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Originally Posted by Rikkar501 View Post
Trying to be healthy and follow a diet while continuing to drink is counterproductive. Not only is alcohol loaded with calories (a single shot of liqueur can contain anywhere from 115-200 calories) it also lowers testosterone and dramatically slows your bodies ability to burn fat.

I'm so fucked.
post #195 of 261
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Originally Posted by DNW View Post
I'm so fucked.
Or it could be that the world isn't 100% black and white like Slick Rikk would have you believe.
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