or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Who makes extra-short ties? (or, proper tie-shortening technique)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Who makes extra-short ties? (or, proper tie-shortening technique)

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
As a 5'10" guy with an average-length torso and a 14.5" neck, I find it's impossible to tie a four-in-hand knot on a standard 58-inch-long tie without having several inches of the narrow blade hanging out awkwardly. Tucking into pants or shirt is just not acceptable, so I pretty much always tie a half-windsor, but even this is too long with some ties/some trouser rises. I know I can get ties shortened, but sending them all to TieCrafters is an expensive proposition.

Are there any companies out there known for making shorter ties? Somewhere in the neighbourhood of 53 to 55 inches? With the width being 3.25 inches or less? I've got a couple of vintage thrift-store finds in this category, and every now and again you can find an '80's Hermès on eBay that fits the bill, but I'm hoping for a reasonably reputable modern manufacturer with new stock.

In the alternative (and perhaps bordering on sacrilege): is it possible to shorten a tie myself by just chopping off a few inches from the short end, folding over the edge, and machine-sewing it? Or is it necessary to cut along the shape of the V, take apart the lining, etc., so as to preserve the slip-stitching inside the tie that allows it to recover from twisting?
post #2 of 18
Why is tucking the narrow end into your trousers unacceptable? Many well-dressed men do/have done this (the Duke of Windsor and Alan Flusser, to name but two). I am 5' 8" and have the same problem. In the past I have always tied a full or half-Windsor. Recently I have been drawn to the FIH, and in order to make it work, I accept that I have to tuck the narrow blade into my trouser waistband. If you're really set on shortening the tie, Tiecrafters in NYC does such things.
post #3 of 18
I buy vintage ties - they can sometimes be as short as 52"! Keep your eye out at thrifts.
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyalPaJamas View Post
Why is tucking the narrow end into your trousers unacceptable?

Mainly because it bulges up when I sit down. Also, if the tie sways back and forth as I walk and reveals the tuck-in, it seems a bit... I dunno... grandpa-ish to me. Kind of like tucking your undershirt into your underwear... just not right. Not the way it's supposed to be, I guess.
post #5 of 18
Or you could go custom:

Hober Ties
post #6 of 18
Or you could send some of your favorite ties to tie crafters and have them shortened and slimmed.
post #7 of 18
I've found that the narrower Drake's ties are on the short side.
post #8 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by kopah View Post
As a 5'10" guy with an average-length torso and a 14.5" neck, I find it's impossible to tie a four-in-hand knot on a standard 58-inch-long tie without having several inches of the narrow blade hanging out awkwardly. Tucking into pants or shirt is just not acceptable, so I pretty much always tie a half-windsor, but even this is too long with some ties/some trouser rises. I know I can get ties shortened, but sending them all to TieCrafters is an expensive proposition.

Are there any companies out there known for making shorter ties? Somewhere in the neighbourhood of 53 to 55 inches? With the width being 3.25 inches or less? I've got a couple of vintage thrift-store finds in this category, and every now and again you can find an '80's Hermès on eBay that fits the bill, but I'm hoping for a reasonably reputable modern manufacturer with new stock.

In the alternative (and perhaps bordering on sacrilege): is it possible to shorten a tie myself by just chopping off a few inches from the short end, folding over the edge, and machine-sewing it? Or is it necessary to cut along the shape of the V, take apart the lining, etc., so as to preserve the slip-stitching inside the tie that allows it to recover from twisting?

I have the same problem, however I also have a fix:

I wrap the longer end around the knot part TWICE before bulling it through the loop to make the dimple. This uses up a few more inches from the longer side and makes for the finished product to look more it's "supposed" to............no tucking in required!

Hope this helps
post #9 of 18
http://www.fourinhand.com/catalog.asp?dept=101007 Jonathan's short ties are 56x3.25, I believe.
post #10 of 18
I have a resource that has made some ties for me. His name is ANTHONY T. he's here in NYC and makes a custom handmade neckwear. I know he's done XL-ties. So, if he's offering custom he probably can make a shorter length tie in a 3.25" width. His email is: tkirb@msn.com
post #11 of 18
post #12 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by kopah View Post
Mainly because it bulges up when I sit down. Also, if the tie sways back and forth as I walk and reveals the tuck-in, it seems a bit... I dunno... grandpa-ish to me. Kind of like tucking your undershirt into your underwear... just not right. Not the way it's supposed to be, I guess.

I tuck my uindershirt into my underwear all the time. I don't like the bulge around the midsection from an untucked shirt riding up.
post #13 of 18

try ProperKnot.com.  new brand that launched.  specialize in shorter ties.  not a big selection, but some pretty nice ties offered in a 56inch length.  I'm 5-7 and found that tying a four in hand was perfect without having to wrap it around 2 or 3 times.

post #14 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnsNotHere View Post

Or you could go custom:

Hober Ties

http://www.samhober.com/necktie/howtomakeanecktie.htm

I tried shortening at home once.  It worked but was bulky.  I'm sure with practice on thrifted/old ties one could get better.

post #15 of 18

Hey gents. You should visit our Etsy store. We make men's ties specifically designed for shorter guys.


https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShorterTies


Tie Length: 53 inches (135cm)

 

Tie Width: 2.5 inch width (6.35cm) for our standard silk ties and 2 inches (5cm) for the knit silk ties. Slim width to make you look great!

 

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Classic Menswear
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Who makes extra-short ties? (or, proper tie-shortening technique)