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post #76 of 128
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post
what are the best triceps exercises other than dips? at my college gym there's only one place to do dips and theres always a fucking wait, so I need a good alternative

Close grip bench press, diamond pushups, skullcrushers.
post #77 of 128
There was a thread in here about a year ago with online sources for exercise and strength training information, but I haven't been able to locate it with searches. Perhaps it is time to revive or repeat. I find that about 10% of any random site is useful *to me* if I am lucky and that the following have done me reasonably well - bodybuilding.com - over 35 forum tmuscle.com - articles, not forums (and that means 1 in 10 articles is good for me) ironaddicts.com - site seems mostly dead, but good archives elitefts.com - not too much experience with yet, but articles Tmuscle does shill a lot of shit, but it doesn't bother me as I have zero inclination to buy bizarro supps. Every week they usually manage to eek out one article that contains something decent I can take on it's own merit, so I read it.
post #78 of 128
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Originally Posted by fredfred View Post
Don't forget selling lots of supplements. They do that, too. BUT I'm here to support you. Everything you say is true. There are certainly other sources of info, but that site has helped me get in the best shape I've ever been in. If you need a program to follow that will work, they have it.

Thanks man, reading T-Nation and participating on the forums has helped me get my iron game where it needs to be. I fucked around with various "pro-bodybuilder" 3x8-10 bullshit for a year or two before realizing I was doing it all wrong. Now I'm finally getting to the strength levels I want to be at with the physical looks as well. All you guys saying T-Nation is hype need a serious reality check.

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Originally Posted by jarude
I've spent enough time on T-Nation to know it's a hole. Namedrop all you'd like. I also go to people stronger than me to learn; it just happens that those people just don't try to sell me ANACONDA or tell me why I should protect my balls.

For fucks sake man, give it up! You have just proved that you know nothing about the site by digging up that old article by TC. The articles under the Atomic Dog section are meant to be thought provoking but wholly ridiculous in wording. If an editorial piece keeps you from reading articles about strength and nutrition I guarantee T-Nation aint for you. Anyways, I'm done defending T-Muscle on SF; if anyone wants to discuss any aspects of the site (articles, etc) I'm more than open to it. To all the haters: open your minds a bit, close mindedness isn't good for any body!

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Originally Posted by Teger
what are the best triceps exercises other than dips? at my college gym there's only one place to do dips and theres always a fucking wait, so I need a good alternative

Heavy close grip bench press, decline DB extensions, skullcrushers; these are great alternatives to dips.
post #79 of 128
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post
what are the best triceps exercises other than dips? at my college gym there's only one place to do dips and theres always a fucking wait, so I need a good alternative

You could do dips using two benches.



Others: rope pulldowns (my fav), skullcrushers, close grip bench press, pulldowns, reverse pulldowns.
post #80 of 128
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Originally Posted by svelten View Post
The harder thing for most perennially skinny-folks is, IMO, the food. If you've got a gym membership, sticking to schedule isn't difficult. Go in, warm up, do your sets hard, cool down and leave and you'll often be done in well under an hour - that's less than 3 hours a week. Eating enough and at the same time in a healthy manner is much, much more difficult especially if you're preparing your own meals.
Based on my experience, taking into account the genetics of an average male, in order to maintain a well built body at a low body fat percentage, most people will need much more physical activity than 2.5-3 hours of gym time a week. That just isn't going to cut it. Do other things besides just hitting the gym. Swim, boxing workouts, etc. If you're going for an above average build, it takes above average work.
post #81 of 128
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Originally Posted by stickshift View Post
You could do dips using two benches.



Those are good. For added difficulty, you can put a plate or two on your thighs.
post #82 of 128
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post
. Eat well. Lift hard. Don't worry about THE PERFECT REP or getting SUPERHUMAN RESULTS. And for the love of God and all things good and holy, don't support T-Nation.
X2. I personally liked CT's articles..until he started spewing out all that "I, Bodybuilder" bullshit. I'd say for anyone new to weightlifting, stick to a basic program (5x5, westside, etc.,). One thing I would like to emphasize is that you should pay particular attention to strengthening your posterior chains (hams, glutes, lower back).
post #83 of 128
Squats, Deads, Cleans, Presses, Bench, Pullups and a couple auxiliary lifts + food + explosive cardio = results.







Seriously...
post #84 of 128
I have a few quick questions. I'm not fantastically new to the gym, and I'm in decent shape, but I want to put on some muscle. For the past few years I've been doing on and off 10 8 6 4 workouts w/ some, but not enough, compound lifts ( I do bench, pullups, dips, and lots of free weights, almost no machines). I always thought I was a hard gainer, but I've gotten good results from upping my calories a ton.

Question 1: Is 10 8 6 4, increasing weight on each set, still appropriate? would a 5x5 routine be more effective? Anyone have good examples of 5x5 routines?

Question 2: How important is changing your routine so your muscles don't get used to the workout?

Question 3: Does stretching improve/hurt your muscle gains? Does it do nothing to gains? Will it make your muscles more evenly distributed on your body?

Thanks!
post #85 of 128
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Originally Posted by CommanderPeanut View Post
I have a few quick questions. I'm not fantastically new to the gym, and I'm in decent shape, but I want to put on some muscle. For the past few years I've been doing on and off 10 8 6 4 workouts w/ some, but not enough, compound lifts ( I do bench, pullups, dips, and lots of free weights, almost no machines). I always thought I was a hard gainer, but I've gotten good results from upping my calories a ton.

Question 1: Is 10 8 6 4, increasing weight on each set, still appropriate? would a 5x5 routine be more effective? Anyone have good examples of 5x5 routines? A ramping 5x5 such as madcow's 5x5 would be similar but with reduced workload.

Question 2: How important is changing your routine so your muscles don't get used to the workout? Well once you start to stall out in your progression you can deload and start the progression over, or you can start a new program. No hard and fast rule. Basically stick to the program untill you stall out for a few weeks then either deload and start again or switch it up.

Question 3: Does stretching improve/hurt your muscle gains? Does it do nothing to gains? Will it make your muscles more evenly distributed on your body? Some people thing that stretching will help with hypertrophy, there is some evidence that static stretching causes a temporary slight decrease in maximal force output or some shit like that. The conventional wisdom is to do a dynamic warmup prior to lifting and static stretch after, but unless you are maxing or having a very high intensity day, you will probably be just fine anyway.
Thanks!


Sorry, responses in bold!
post #86 of 128
Whether or not stretching has an effect on muscle growth is something I don't know or really care about.

What I can tell you is doing stretches maintains/increases your range of motion. Good range of motion helps in decreasing injuries and is crucial to performance in almost any athletic venture.
post #87 of 128
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Originally Posted by LucasCLarson View Post
Squats, Deads, Cleans, Presses, Bench, Pullups and a couple auxiliary lifts + food + explosive cardio = results.







Seriously...

Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner! This is all you need.
post #88 of 128
I am an idiot. I have been doing 3x8-10 EVERYTHING for many years, but so irregularly I thought my lack of huge gains was due to not keeping a strict schedule. I am an idiot. Dear SF, thank you!
post #89 of 128
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Originally Posted by Ajaxv2 View Post
I am an idiot. I have been doing 3x8-10 EVERYTHING for many years, but so irregularly I thought my lack of huge gains was due to not keeping a strict schedule. I am an idiot. Dear SF, thank you!

it was.

goes without staying that you need to stay on course to get results.
post #90 of 128
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
it was.

goes without staying that you need to stay on course to get results.

Yep and it wouldn't surprise me if diet had something to do with it too.
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