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post #16 of 53
4/13/10 at 11:47am
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The champagne is a Pol Roger Winston Churchill, about 20 years old I think.
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post #17 of 53
4/13/10 at 11:50am
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Didier sounds extremely interesting. From what I read you all had the 04?

I've had bottles of the '05 Pur Sang, '04 Silex, plus samples of a handful of others from various vintages. I drank the Silex with Manton. Pio had the '05 Pur Sang as well.

Kwilk linked my review of the Silex, here is for the Pur Sang:
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2005 Didier Pur Sang Blanc Fume de Pouilly - Captivating nose that is classic Pouilly Fume but you immediately know this has something extra. Citrus and minerality are obvious but a fascinating floral aspect comes into play. On the palate, this wine delivers. The attack is full of grape fruit, lemon, milky melon, tart pear, and then evolves to show a rich flinty, stony, and almost sea stone essence. The acidity is perfect each step of the way but the oak aging adds just the right amount of subtlety to keep everything in check and balanced. The finish is exceptionally long with huge amounts of gun flint and slate. An astonishing wine.

And get one while you can, even if not for the tasting. They wont be around for long and they really are something speical.
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post #18 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:11pm
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No, I think it is the exact opposite, actually.

Eons ago, Burgundy was much more expensive and much less consistently good. Now, although less true than maybe 10 years ago, the prospect of getting 2 decent bottles of Richebourg for one of Lafite is not at all unfeasible today. Compare prices on a good Nuits-St-Georges vs. a Gruaud Larose that is ready to drink. The Burgundy is generally going to be less expensive.
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post #19 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:14pm
interesting points. I couldn't make a definite conclusion. Henri Jayer and Chateau Ausone 2005 are both equally out of my league.
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post #20 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:17pm
and, and for what it's worth, Manton and I also tried a $480 bottle of Jadot Bienvenues Batard Montrachet 2007 on the same day as the Didier. Superb, yes, but given the option I would take the Didier and not look back.

There has been quite a bit of buzz over Didier in the wine thread, do a search and you'll see some interesting posts.
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post #21 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:21pm
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Eons ago, Burgundy was much more expensive and much less consistently good. Now, although less true than maybe 10 years ago, the prospect of getting 2 decent bottles of Richebourg for one of Lafite is not at all unfeasible today. Compare prices on a good Nuits-St-Georges vs. a Gruaud Larose that is ready to drink. The Burgundy is generally going to be less expensive.
Eh, I am unconvinced. I think you can certainly do as well in Burgundy for $75 as you can in Bordeaux, and I think you can do better in some price ranges, but once you get to $40 and below, there are tons of good Cru Bourgeois Bords but Burgs are sketchy. If I had a limited amount of money, and wanted to be sure that it was well spent, I would head to the Rhone over the big two anyway, as there are fewer disappointments, and still a few unknown gems.
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post #22 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:31pm
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Eh, I am unconvinced. I think you can certainly do as well in Burgundy for $75 as you can in Bordeaux, and I think you can do better in some price ranges, but once you get to $40 and below, there are tons of good Cru Bourgeois Bords but Burgs are sketchy. If I had a limited amount of money, and wanted to be sure that it was well spent, I would head to the Rhone over the big two anyway, as there are fewer disappointments, and still a few unknown gems.

this is a good point too. For $40, I'm doing Bordeaux (though I did find a fantastic $17 AOC burg), while $75-100 can be a wash with great wines in either category.

Of course, the Italians are great at all price points and I enjoy $35 Barbaresco and $95 Barbaresco.
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post #23 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:34pm
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If I had a limited amount of money, and wanted to be sure that it was well spent, I would head to the Rhone over the big two anyway, as there are fewer disappointments, and still a few unknown gems.

Well, that's definitely true, at least to the extent that Robert Parker isn't persuading everyone there to make vintage Port.

Another issue with Burgundy that you touch on is that it's really hard to know what you're getting unless you drink a lot or have a great source. And there aren't many great sources in this country or most others for that matter.
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post #24 of 53
4/13/10 at 4:40pm
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Well, that's definitely true, at least to the extent that Robert Parker isn't persuading everyone there to make vintage Port.

Another issue with Burgundy that you touch on is that it's really hard to know what you're getting unless you drink a lot or have a great source. And there aren't many great sources in this country or most others for that matter.
The first line of your post describes one of the horrors of the last decade. Thankfully, we have Kermit Lynch here who has kept his stable of Rhone producers on the right track making really traditional wines. As for the second, I agree. You need a really good importer or a seller you can trust. Again, we are lucky to have KL, who is as good with Burgs as anybody.
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post #25 of 53
4/13/10 at 7:14pm
K&L also has a respectable old and rare collection, including some wines that come direct from the chateau / producer.
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post #26 of 53
4/13/10 at 7:58pm
Fourrier Clos St Jacques. I prefer it to most Burg Grand Crus, and for they are always amazing. The '05 will probably be within your price range, but I actually prefer the '03. Will be different but a stunner nonetheless.
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post #27 of 53
4/13/10 at 8:33pm
This whole thread makes me feel poor and uncultured.
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post #28 of 53
4/13/10 at 8:57pm
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This whole thread makes me feel poor and uncultured.

Wait until you're at a really nice dinner, looking over the wine list with one or more of these guys. It can get straight up embarrassing.
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post #29 of 53
4/13/10 at 9:25pm
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Wait until you're at a really nice dinner, looking over the wine list with one or more of these guys. It can get straight up embarrassing.

I'll gladly take the embarrassment if they're paying.
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post #30 of 53
4/13/10 at 9:32pm
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I'll gladly take the embarrassment if they're paying.

me too.
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