A little background information.. I am currently employed by a local municipality. This was my first job out of college, this May will be two years. I am in the vast minority (young, white, male). Since my first day on the job the #2 for the organization has all but refused to call me by my name. She calls me Junior, not because I am named after my father, but due to the fact that there is one other staff member with my racial background. Alas I am dubbed Rick Jr. I have expressed my concern over this on many different situations. I have tried telling her that my name is not Junior but Carl, I have tried ignoring her when she calls me Jr., and i have even began calling her a different name. For awhile it did not bother me buy now evertime i hear it, it pisses me off. I am hesitant to go to the actual HR office to file a grievance as she has been employed for 10+ years for the city. In reality I am really unhappy with my place of employment at the moment but I really need a job for the timr being (just bought a house and about to propose). I guess I'm just looking for advice. Has someone been through anything similar? I'm not completely sure that discrimination is going on. There have been NUMEROUS other comments that would draw suspicion. Any thoughts?? TIA
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post #2 of 34
4/9/10 at 5:26pm
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4/9/10 at 5:30pm
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4/9/10 at 5:31pm
By genetic backgroud do you mean racial background? Calling you "junior" because of a shared genetic background wouldn't be weird, as you'd probably be related to the other person. Doing it because of race, on the other hand, seems wholly inappropriate to me.
If you're a white guy in a government around Atlanta, and you're getting the feeling that you're being treated differently on account of race, I'd think HR would be particularly sensitive to the issue given the recent court decision against Vernon Jones and DeKalb County. That being the case, I think, assuming this woman is calling you junior based upon race, it wouldn't hurt to talk to HR. A lot of times you're protected by law in situations like this, so it shouldn't be an issue that could cost you your job.
The bottom line is that there's something going on that makes you feel uncomfortable, and you shouldn't have to deal with that. It may be that your supervisor just doesn't understand that this is inappropriate, or it may be that there's a real problem here. Regardless, I don't think it's wrong for you to address it.
If you're a white guy in a government around Atlanta, and you're getting the feeling that you're being treated differently on account of race, I'd think HR would be particularly sensitive to the issue given the recent court decision against Vernon Jones and DeKalb County. That being the case, I think, assuming this woman is calling you junior based upon race, it wouldn't hurt to talk to HR. A lot of times you're protected by law in situations like this, so it shouldn't be an issue that could cost you your job.
The bottom line is that there's something going on that makes you feel uncomfortable, and you shouldn't have to deal with that. It may be that your supervisor just doesn't understand that this is inappropriate, or it may be that there's a real problem here. Regardless, I don't think it's wrong for you to address it.
post #6 of 34
4/13/10 at 5:22pm
post #7 of 34
4/13/10 at 9:38pm
post #8 of 34
4/13/10 at 10:02pm
post #9 of 34
4/13/10 at 10:36pm
A few things to keep in mind.:
1. Honestly it's not a big deal, no offense, but it just isn't. Nearly no one my entire life has been able to pronounce my name correctly, so I just let people call me whatever their comfortable with.
2. Since it does bother you, I highly recommend taking it up with the person in question. Just politely ask that you be called (your name) instead of junior. Your reaction is common, enough so that many places of business can't say "Merry Christmas" because it might offend somebody (among a myriad of other things that hurt people's feelings).
3. Be warned here and now that going to HR can backfire horribly for you. The HR staff are not immune to gossip, having favorites, and being friends with other staff. Even if their job is to help protect employees, I've seen it on more than one occasion where the result of a complaint has turned into a witch-hunt to "get back" at the person who complained against a friend. So don't be surprised if you find people trying to catch you in the act of anything and everything to report you about. Not saying it will happen in your case, but just know that it does happen.
1. Honestly it's not a big deal, no offense, but it just isn't. Nearly no one my entire life has been able to pronounce my name correctly, so I just let people call me whatever their comfortable with.
2. Since it does bother you, I highly recommend taking it up with the person in question. Just politely ask that you be called (your name) instead of junior. Your reaction is common, enough so that many places of business can't say "Merry Christmas" because it might offend somebody (among a myriad of other things that hurt people's feelings).
3. Be warned here and now that going to HR can backfire horribly for you. The HR staff are not immune to gossip, having favorites, and being friends with other staff. Even if their job is to help protect employees, I've seen it on more than one occasion where the result of a complaint has turned into a witch-hunt to "get back" at the person who complained against a friend. So don't be surprised if you find people trying to catch you in the act of anything and everything to report you about. Not saying it will happen in your case, but just know that it does happen.
post #10 of 34
4/14/10 at 12:06am
Quote:
A few things to keep in mind.:
1. Honestly it's not a big deal, no offense, but it just isn't. Nearly no one my entire life has been able to pronounce my name correctly, so I just let people call me whatever their comfortable with.
2. Since it does bother you, I highly recommend taking it up with the person in question. Just politely ask that you be called (your name) instead of junior. Your reaction is common, enough so that many places of business can't say "Merry Christmas" because it might offend somebody (among a myriad of other things that hurt people's feelings).
3. Be warned here and now that going to HR can backfire horribly for you. The HR staff are not immune to gossip, having favorites, and being friends with other staff. Even if their job is to help protect employees, I've seen it on more than one occasion where the result of a complaint has turned into a witch-hunt to "get back" at the person who complained against a friend. So don't be surprised if you find people trying to catch you in the act of anything and everything to report you about. Not saying it will happen in your case, but just know that it does happen.
1. Honestly it's not a big deal, no offense, but it just isn't. Nearly no one my entire life has been able to pronounce my name correctly, so I just let people call me whatever their comfortable with.
2. Since it does bother you, I highly recommend taking it up with the person in question. Just politely ask that you be called (your name) instead of junior. Your reaction is common, enough so that many places of business can't say "Merry Christmas" because it might offend somebody (among a myriad of other things that hurt people's feelings).
3. Be warned here and now that going to HR can backfire horribly for you. The HR staff are not immune to gossip, having favorites, and being friends with other staff. Even if their job is to help protect employees, I've seen it on more than one occasion where the result of a complaint has turned into a witch-hunt to "get back" at the person who complained against a friend. So don't be surprised if you find people trying to catch you in the act of anything and everything to report you about. Not saying it will happen in your case, but just know that it does happen.
+1, I'm not sure why this wasn't done on day one.
post #11 of 34
4/14/10 at 12:53am
Quote:
A little background information.. I am currently employed by a local municipality. This was my first job out of college, this May will be two years. I am in the vast minority (young, white, male). Since my first day on the job the #2 for the organization has all but refused to call me by my name. She calls me Junior, not because I am named after my father, but due to the fact that there is one other staff member with my racial background. Alas I am dubbed Rick Jr. I have expressed my concern over this on many different situations. I have tried telling her that my name is not Junior but Carl, I have tried ignoring her when she calls me Jr., and i have even began calling her a different name. For awhile it did not bother me buy now evertime i hear it, it pisses me off. I am hesitant to go to the actual HR office to file a grievance as she has been employed for 10+ years for the city. In reality I am really unhappy with my place of employment at the moment but I really need a job for the timr being (just bought a house and about to propose). I guess I'm just looking for advice. Has someone been through anything similar? I'm not completely sure that discrimination is going on. There have been NUMEROUS other comments that would draw suspicion. Any thoughts?? TIA
post #12 of 34
4/14/10 at 1:00am
post #13 of 34
4/14/10 at 1:03am
post #14 of 34
4/14/10 at 2:53am
Not advice and not work related but I was in a similar situation. Not me being called the name but another. There was a friend of a friend on our softball team we called Egg. That is how he was introduced to us by his friend. All he did was tell one person on the team that he did not like being called that. Gossip as it is, this travelled quickly and nobody really calls him it anymore. I do not know who he told or the content of the conversation. All I heard was "hey, you know that Egg wants to be called Scott..." "Really, why?" "IDK, does not like Egg" "Ohh, OK" So, an option is to tell a friend to tell people. Seems kind of sissy, but a lot easier and less cumbersome than the advice a few posts above to take all EE's aside one by one. Nobody really likes formal confrontation. This way, you are not the bad guy.
post #15 of 34
4/14/10 at 5:52am
In this thread: The Emasculation of the American Man Christ mate, re-read your post out loud to yourself. You're letting some cunt mentally push you around and get under your skin since day one. You sound like a guy who is a pushover in most areas of life and who isn't happy w/ most things in his life (don't like your work but can't leave, sounds like you kind of got stuck in ATL and you wish to be somewhere else, letting femi-nazi cunt and rest of staff, etc.) You need to make your stand against this woman and leave your job. It'll be the kickstart you need to start changing your life. I'm not being a prick, I'm just telling you the truth that you are afraid to face.
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