Originally Posted by lawyerdad
At the risk of falling too far into lawerly semantics, I'd again suggest there's a definitional issue. If being a "nice guy" means being a doormat and not standing up for yourself in a relationship, I don't think that's particularly heathy or attractive for anybody. Some of the "nicest" folks I know are among the most willing to draw lines and insist on what's important to them. I do agree with you that for many guys, especially when they are younger, the distinction between being a nice guy - in the sense of being honest, respectful of others, etc. - and being a doormat can be a difficult one to grasp.
That's why I put "nice guy" in quotes. There is nothing wrong with being nice. Doormat "nice guy" / forced "niceness" doesn't get anybody anywhere.
The six types of love are Agape (hopeless, used, desparate), Storge (friendship), Eros (passionate, burn out quickly), Pragma (practicality.. I.e. "I wouldn't date someone unless our family genes would mix well), Mania (obsessive/posessive, hyper-jealous), and Ludus (love's a game). It would be impossible to find an agreeable ground between the different types. I believe most people are a combination of the above types, with one that is specifically higher.
Isn't it interesting that the english language does not encompass any of these types of "love". Love is love but can mean so many different things in the english language. Love a cat, love your grandmother, love your car, love the John Lobb Tudor boot with the plain vamp hand finished bevelled waist in Parisien brown - size 12.