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post #46 of 52
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Originally Posted by hobo
your experience and observations are VERY similar to my own

Fair enough, but I should emphasize what I failed to do in my original post--that this was only the extremely narrow range of my own experience and was no attempt to draw a larger conclusion.
post #47 of 52
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Originally Posted by jpeirpont
Yes, after two years and 200+ posts, I decided to become a troll.
Dunno, could have happened earlier. The fact that you've posted a lot means you can't be trolling? We must have different understandings of that word. But whatever, have fun.
post #48 of 52
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Originally Posted by Vintage Gent
Growing up in Houston in the 80s, I was around Jewish folk for a good part of my life. It was strange, but the Jews I rubbed elbows with, and there were many of them, were, even in that day, extreme in their animosity toward African-Americans. While none were public about it, their private conversations--and at many times, I would be the only non-Jew in the room, so I was privy to many--betrayed a racial hatred that was almost Klan-like in its extremity. The non-Jews I knew, for the most part, didn't view their relations with black people through that kind of prism.

Interesting--I've seen both sides of this. Many of the older Jews that I knew were involved (usually through temple) in supporting the civil rights movement, and some became embittered at what they perceived to be a betrayal: rightly or wrongly, they began to ascribe the rantings of the Nation of Islam to "most blacks," comments like the famous "Hymietown" line by Jessie Jackson reinforced this, and these "new-age Jews" that denied the Ashkenazic (and sometimes even Sephardic) Jews their religion only made things worse. This was also compounded by feelings along the lines of, "well, we fled a country and came here with nothing, then built a life so our children could go to school and make something of themselves--why can't the Blacks do right by their children?" What's so interesting to me is that many of these same folks would usually be *deeply* suspicious of others who voiced racist attitudes towards Blacks, on the grounds that anyone who hated Blacks that much probably also had it in for Latinos, Jews, and maybe Catholics.

On the other hand, also I remember an incident related to me by my father: my grandmother, my father, and his siblings were at a public pool in the 1940s, when a black family was turned away by the park folks. My father had made some comment about his approval, which earned him a long, angry lecture from my grandmother.

These days, most temples I know of have social action committees that help inner-city youth, and many of the congregants are steadfast in their dedication to helping the poor, whether black, brown, and other. So it goes both ways.

But this is my admittedly limited experience.

Also, FWIW, the posts I've seen by Jpierpoint over the last couple of years haven't, to my eyes, been flamebait.
post #49 of 52
Was watching Bigger and Blacker last night. To paraphrase Chris Rock "Do you really think black people have the time to carve all you white folks up in to little groups? Black people don't hate Jews. Black people hate white people!"
post #50 of 52
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Originally Posted by GQgeek
Was watching Bigger and Blacker last night. To paraphrase Chris Rock "Do you really think black people have the time to carve all you white folks up in to little groups? Black people don't hate Jews. Black people hate white people!"

Wise man.

Jon.
post #51 of 52
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Originally Posted by GQgeek
Was watching Bigger and Blacker last night. To paraphrase Chris Rock "Do you really think black people have the time to carve all you white folks up in to little groups? Black people don't hate Jews. Black people hate white people!"

that would be funny except that backs have more time on their hands than anyone else.
post #52 of 52
But how do you really feel?
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