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post #16 of 55
Am I missing something? BB has had these available for years.
post #17 of 55
I dont remember them ever calling any English shoe "lightweight"
post #18 of 55
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These are not made in england ... most probably gluejobs.

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Those are the ones I was thinking of ... but I don't think they're listed as Peals, are they?

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D'oh! You are right. they are not listed as Peals.
Thanks guys ... got it straight.

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However, these should not be on the BB website at all.
I hear you. I can remember some time back when Brooks switched from forward to reverse pleats (heck ... I can even remember when pleats were a total no-no at Brooks). It struck me as odd that they'd turn their back (stylistically) on England for Italy/France. Of course for all I know they've switched again ... these days shoes are about all I buy there.
post #19 of 55
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Serves me right for not posting the links - here they are: Wingtip Bal Perf Captoe Bal As you can see, they're both made in the UK. No sole shots, so no idea whether they're channel soled.
post #20 of 55
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Am I missing something? BB has had these available for years.
For me ... the confusion was in the fact the lesser shoes were mistakenly referenced as Peals.
post #21 of 55
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Serves me right for not posting the links - here they are:

Wingtip Bal

Perf Captoe Bal

As you can see, they're both made in the UK. No sole shots, so no idea whether they're channel soled.

The punch caps are C&J on the 240 last, and definitely have channeled soles. I think the wintips are the same, but not 100% sure.
post #22 of 55
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The punch caps are C&J on the 240 last, and definitely have channeled soles. I think the wintips are the same, but not 100% sure.
This is incorrect. I don't mean to single you out Orgetorix, but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. The non-lightweight (link) are on the 240. The lightweight are on a different last. The toe is much more chiseled on the lightweight. These lightweight models are fairly new. I haven't seen them before from BB.
post #23 of 55
The lightweight models have been around for about a year and half, intermittently. I have inspected them up close. They are welted. The leather is a lighter-weight calf, and the soles are thinner.

I don't like them.
post #24 of 55
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The lightweight models have been around for about a year and half, intermittently. I have inspected them up close. They are welted. The leather is a lighter-weight calf, and the soles are thinner.

I don't like them.

+1

I also found them to fit a bit narrow.

Definitely not a workhorse shoe.
post #25 of 55
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This is incorrect. I don't mean to single you out Orgetorix, but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. The non-lightweight (link) are on the 240. The lightweight are on a different last. The toe is much more chiseled on the lightweight. These lightweight models are fairly new. I haven't seen them before from BB.
You're right. I hadn't seen the "lightweight" designator. I deserved to be singled out.
post #26 of 55
To ressurect a dead thread, but after sleuthing some on the internet, it looks like the BB lightweights "made in england" are likely Loakes. This is based on a comparison of the heel pattern and shoe style of the lightweight loafer.
post #27 of 55
As an update - these were actually made by C&J using a lightweight leather sole. I have learnt from a reliable source that the lightweight soles will be featured on a number of C&J productions own and private label work this Summer.
post #28 of 55
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Hmmm....what is the benefit (real or imagined) of a lightweight sole - aside from perhaps improving the manufacturer's bottom line?
post #29 of 55
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As an update - these were actually made by C&J using a lightweight leather sole. I have learnt from a reliable source that the lightweight soles will be featured on a number of C&J productions own and private label work this Summer.

I am fairly certain that this is incorrect as to the current offerings. Maybe some future lightweight shoes are made by C&J, but the current stuff is not.
post #30 of 55
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To ressurect a dead thread, but after sleuthing some on the internet, it looks like the BB lightweights "made in england" are likely Loakes. This is based on a comparison of the heel pattern and shoe style of the lightweight loafer.

I made the same suggestion in this thread in regards to the lightweight penny loafer. I should be receiving my pair in the upcoming weeks as they were on back order and will post pics to see if anyone can confirm.
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