Why raw jeans

The question is - whether the fashion advantages of raw jeans worth the price of the jeans and hassle of finding someone my size in India wearing them for half a year caring not to damage?

If yes, what are the cheapest raw jeans, which are still considered good (just the material and making, not including fashion into the equation)

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is it possible to find a classic raw jean? What producers make them?

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Originally Posted by KitAkira

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Is there any other way (as opposed to outsourcing the jean-breaking business to India) of making the jean look good enough to wear sometimes? Asking because I heard raw jeans are cool.

On a side note, it seems to me that the whole jean-making industry is geared more towards female perception of fashion, since lots of pretty expensive stuff is designed in a manner that is not very much manly, so to speak, with weird cuts and strange patterns and embellishments, which make me doubt the whole jeans-wearing idea (unless I settle on some corduroy Levises). I cannot understand what makes some brands sought-after other than the poor judgement of the buyer. At the same time, females that praise certain jean brands seem not to prefer those who buy and wear them so much, so a proper trousers wearer has a clear advantage in female preferences, this I evidenced many times.

Obviously, you don't need to break the trousers in and wear them wet.

But I still suspect there might be some sort of special fashion-conscious audience which would praise my smarts if I get a pair. What would that audience look like?

Is there any chance of making a strong style and fashion statement by wearing a raw jean as opposed to color-matched and otherwise great-looking casual attire? By casual attire I mean proper shoes, trousers and some sort of high-quality pullover - with smartly selected components the mix might be stunning.

I.e. what audience hate trousers so much that some jeans are preferrable? Enlighten me.

(Except teenagers).

Hahaha thats epic troll

The vibe I'm getting is that OP wants someone to break his denimz in for him.

To that I reply: WTF?

apc butler denim?

Is the answer "potato"?

Originally Posted by Capable

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outsourcing the jean-breaking business to India




I think you are onto something here

If anyone knows any other sensible way of making raw jeans look good other than letting someone else wear them, I am very much willing to know what it is. It came to my mind because I have read that there is a whole conterfeit antique jeans operation in Asia, where raw jeans are being aged by natural process (exactly as I described) and then passed as antique on Ebay. The jeans are conterfeit as well, the article said, but hard to tell unless you inspect very carefully - look real enough on pictures. because they were actually aged by wearing them.

So, I think that considering the cost of a 'good' raw jean, couple of hundreds more to an Indian teenager would give great returns - of not having to wear the jeans yet getting that 'worn' and faded look.

As to the jeans-loving audience, one country comes to mind - Japan. The audience normally looks quite weird, but at the same time are highly demanding as regards the brand and material quality. It deserves a special article just to explain what is considered fashionable to wear there - just to explain what I mean. Things like terribly looking leather overcoats modeled after some anime designer sketches (or so it seems) combined with other elements in such a manner that this seems wearable only there, but made out of expensive leather by a famous designer house and costs a lot.

This is also a motherland of raw jeans and the largest market for them.

If you find an awfully looking asian guy, wearing jeans and looking as if he was getting ready to go exercising in a gym and dressed accordingly in some sports shoes, his jeans may well cost on par with a good MTM suit and everything you see on him might be just right by Japanese standards.

One of the reasons for that IMO is that their business dress standards are strict as nowhere - not even a button undone, not a slight devation in color from black or dark grey, white shirts only etc.

Therefore, as every Japanese teenager knows what is quality jeans, probably for that audience it makes sense to wear quality ones (i.e. made out of quality raw material and Levi's classic cut is likely not to make you look like some models you see in some denim advertisements).

The closest I found to my tastes are some cheap Levises so far. An old-style Levises copy by a japanese producer would be allright IMO, for the above style considerations.

As to Japanese sense of style, take a look at this:

http://cableknitlover.fotopic.net/p21167444.html

You won't find anything close to this in any country.

what the ****?

And I thought I rambled on..

P.S: whats with the pic of the dude in a skirt?

Originally Posted by Capable

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http://cableknitlover.fotopic.net/p21167444.html

You won't find anything close to this in any country.

What is this

sweaterfetish.com

This threak hurts my eyes + brain.

This is what 25 years old Japanese girls wear. I don't have any male street fashion pics, but trust me - it all looks equally outlandish yet cost a fortune. You can make a statement by wearing a bright solid color tie with a bespoke suit, but this has nothing to do with fashion - fashion is THIS. When going out, they put THIS on.

Its not like at other places in the world where people at work put on whatever - everyone down to subway station attendants wear either suits or uniforms, this is dictated by the dress code - so those in position to afford having a choice dress as if they are out for a Halloween party. You won't stand out wearing a suit - however sharp it is, you will simply blend into the crowd.

While everywhere else casual attire and poorly made RTW clothing make anyone whose suit fits look well dressed - and if you add smart color matching you can have a stunning effect.

P.S. In Japan, they easily pick up what quality is prepared and able to pay for it and therefore a lot of products made for domestic markets are not sold internationally, while Japan is primary market for lots of fancy brand name merchandise like shoes, bags, whatever. But the way they blend the merchandise together is distinctly Japanese.

i read about this idea somewhere before: give raw jeans to hobos and poor people then when they are broken in, replace them and sell the broken in jeans to hipsters