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Seeking Opinion on Brown Captoe -- Hallam/Audley or PEAL for BB Captoe

post #1 of 17
3/26/10 at 11:02am
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Guys, What's your take on these for a dark brown captoe: 1) Peal for BB http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatP...r=&sectionsize= 2) C&J Hallam 3) C&J Audley
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post #2 of 17
3/26/10 at 11:03am
Personally, I love the Audley
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post #3 of 17
3/26/10 at 11:53am
I have the Brooks in black ( one of my 2 black shoes), it is C&J on the 240 last which is a bit wider.

I also have the Audley in brown. There is no comparison in terms of the elegance of the last and the quality of the leather - Audley +100.
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post #4 of 17
3/26/10 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by Spark View Post
I have the Brooks in black ( one of my 2 black shoes), it is C&J on the 240 last which is a bit wider.

I also have the Audley in brown. There is no comparison in terms of the elegance of the last and the quality of the leather - Audley +100.

From the catalogue pictures, it looks to me as though BB has moved to a different last from that used previously. The Peal captoes I have are a standard roundtoe where as those are slightly squared.
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post #5 of 17
3/26/10 at 1:08pm
Yea, I think think that is a different captoe than the one on the 240. Is the new BB one C&J? The pricing suggests no.
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post #6 of 17
3/26/10 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by balaskonis View Post

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Originally Posted by Spark View Post
I have the Brooks in black ( one of my 2 black shoes), it is C&J on the 240 last which is a bit wider.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
From the catalogue pictures, it looks to me as though BB has moved to a different last from that used previously. The Peal captoes I have are a standard roundtoe where as those are slightly squared.

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Originally Posted by txeconomist View Post
Yea, I think think that is a different captoe than the one on the 240. Is the new BB one C&J? The pricing suggests no.

^ Those aren't the C&J on the 240 last. Someone noted their resemblance to a Loake last in another thread... These are the C&J 240 last punch caps: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatP...=&sectionsize=
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post #7 of 17
3/27/10 at 9:07am
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so then the BB by Peal is really by C&J? I'm confused by that...and the last is different because of the slight chisel toe?
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post #8 of 17
3/27/10 at 11:12am
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so then the BB by Peal is really by C&J? I'm confused by that...and the last is different because of the slight chisel toe?

Some current BB Peal are by C&J, while others are by Alfred Sargent. Some speculate that BB now also uses another maker for certain models, including the Lightweight Perforated Captoe Bal you linked to. I believe other makers have been used in the past as well.
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post #9 of 17
3/27/10 at 12:50pm
I thought Alfred Sargent made a lot of BB shoes, often on the 87 last, which I like a lot and would be my choice for a captoe. Either that or an Alden on the Hampton last.
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post #10 of 17
11/17/10 at 9:43am
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I wanted to revisit this topic...anyone know what last this one? I hear SNAP last now from Alden? http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatP...r=&sectionsize it looks like a nice sleeker last than the others on BB....it's either this or the audley but the Audley is a couple hundred more for me....BB this can be had with some coupons I have for $350...worth it?
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post #11 of 17
11/17/10 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by balaskonis View Post
I wanted to revisit this topic...anyone know what last this one? I hear SNAP last now from Alden?

"Made in England," so not Alden.
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post #12 of 17
11/17/10 at 11:39am
Wow. This thread is full of incorrect information. Wes Bourne & Orgetorix are the only ones that has a clue what is going on.
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post #13 of 17
11/17/10 at 11:27pm
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ok, so aside from the fact that it's not alden, what are the opinions of this especially if it can be had for ~$300? any reviews on this one?
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post #14 of 17
11/18/10 at 12:32am
I can't compare them to the Hallam or Audley, but I am quite happy with mine. As someone mentioned, they do seem a bit wide which I like. The seem to hold up quite well and are comfortable.
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post #15 of 17
12/12/11 at 5:33pm
Did anyone ever figure out who was the maker of those BB ones?
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