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post #91 of 106
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
Ahem.

Do you dispute my nerd qualifications or my lack of financial prowess?
post #92 of 106
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I never meant for this thread to digress is such a manner or for any specific member's hobbies to be ridiculed. I don't know much about RPG gaming but I am sure that it could be fun on some level; surely we all indulge in some measure of role playing here, even if we don't label it as such. I hope it is clear that I didn't mean to insult anyone with the premise of this topic as I do feel the majority of this discuss had some real merit.
post #93 of 106
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Originally Posted by Earthmover
In 1968, there was actually a study done by Emory social scientists that observed a fairly large sampling of males between 15-18 (n=1000) seeing whether their hobbies were (1) thought of by a sample of females (n=500) as a "bad" hobby or a "good" hobby, and (2) rated their looks on a scale of 1 to 10. What they found was that there was high correlation between a low attractiveness score and the number of "bad" hobbies the individual had. For example, a person with attractiveness around a 2 had something like 3.75 "bad" hobbies, while a person with A=9 would have around 2.5 "good" hobbies.

I think there might be some relevance to this whole thing of "good and bad hobbies".

People are treated differently in American society based upon looks. Very attractive people get more? or different kinds of attention compared to someone who may not be as attractive.

I guess this extra attention could be looked at as good or bad. But, IMO, a more attractive person will be faced with different issues than someone who is less attractive.

I have been following this thread and wanted to post earlier but it's a hard topic to dissect.

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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim
So I take it that nobody collects jars containing pickled animal foetuses or artwork and correspondance from jailed serial killers.

It looks like you may be one of the, uh, most attractive people on the universe considering those hobbies?
post #94 of 106
Umm... Guys. My post at the beginning of the thread was a complete joke. Please read the last lines of my post over again.

I think socially awkward hobbies are the chicken to the egg that is unattractiveness. First of all, these hobbies tend to be insular affairs with inside jokes and language, which usually turns off those who are on the outside. Second, these hobbies don't do anything to improve your physique or looks in a way that a person who has "working out" as a hobby. And lastly, socially awkward hobbies tend to be sausagefests. And being in a 'fest means that you don't really interact with women, and end up acting strangely around them in the rare occasions they are seen. Again, this could be turned around by saying that unattractiveness causes people to drift to these hobbies, but then I'd be accusing myself of being fugly, so...
post #95 of 106
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Originally Posted by Earthmover
And lastly, socially awkward hobbies tend to be sausagefests.

Excuse my ignorance in relation to certain colloquialisms, but what exactly is a "sausagefest""”are you trying to say that the people involved in these hobbies are "wieners" or is it some other type of vague insult? I have been called a wiener in grammar school days but don't have the faintest idea of the nature of the insult.
post #96 of 106
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Originally Posted by thealbatross
Excuse my ignorance in relation to certain colloquialisms, but what exactly is a "sausagefest""”are you trying to say that the people involved in these hobbies are "wieners" or is it some other type of vague insult? I have been called a wiener in grammar school days but don't have the faintest idea of the nature of the insult.

Sausagefest refers to a gathering with a large number of men. Refers to a certain appendage that men have and women don't.
post #97 of 106
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Originally Posted by Bradford
Sausagefest refers to a gathering with a large number of men. Refers to a certain appendage that men have and women don't.

In that context it sounds rather homoerotic; I hope that wasn't part of the intended insult toward RPG gaming, as I more than assume the stigma of socially embarrassing hobbies has no relation to sexual orientation.
post #98 of 106
It's kind of a leap to necessarily associate male-dominated with homoerotic. Isn't it?
post #99 of 106
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Originally Posted by Margaret
It's kind of a leap to necessarily associate male-dominated with homoerotic. Isn't it?


I guess I'm misinterpreting the meaning of the reference; but as explained the term "sausage" as a reference to the male genitalia, to then add "fest" seems as if something other than just rolling dice is going on at a "sausagefest".
post #100 of 106
I suppose it does sound homoerotic, but that was not my intent. People I know use the term sausagefest to describe any activity or setting where the male:female ratio is greatly skewed in favor of males (antonym: Clambake). I think it's just a funny word, personally, no other hidden meanings or agenda.
post #101 of 106
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Originally Posted by thealbatross
I guess I'm misinterpreting the meaning of the reference; but as explained the term "sausage" as a reference to the male genitalia, to then add "fest" seems as if something other than just rolling dice is going on at a "sausagefest".

You are definitely misinterpreting. Most common usage of the term is along the lines of "this place is a sausagefest, so we can forget about picking up girls." I've only ever heard it used in the context of hetero guys stating that there are two many guys and not enough women at specific activities or locations.
post #102 of 106
This topic is pretty fascinating. I come from a family that collects antiques so hobbying is definitely part of my nature and what most of my life (and my art) revolves around. It's also interesting to see which hobbies people consider "nerdy". I often consider myself nerdy because I'm an audiophile and music expert (read: obsessee), a hardcore videogame player (I once payed on a game for a team which was sponsored by Red Bull), a scary foodie, a graphic novelist (and comic fan), a cinephile and a fanatic of pretty much every other facet of art (fashion, cars, literature, fine art, etc.). Most of my friends consider me a huge nerd, however it seems that my hobbies aren't as unsightly as most that are being mentioned. Even though I know a lot of this was in jest, and there is no correlation between being naturally unattractive and taking on an unattractive hobby, I definitely think you have to factor in that to take on a certain hobby you have to utterly disregard what others will think of it. That state of mind can also apply to one's appearance and state of health. Also, the obsessive factor comes in. Look at people who are obsessed with videogames. Other parts of their life definitely suffer due to this obsession. Yeah, I know that's just a summary of a lot that has been covered here, but I really love this stuff. I've been contemplating the psychology behind the hobby for a long time now as I definitely, definitely wouldn't be in the position I am today with my obsessive hobbying.
post #103 of 106
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Originally Posted by Bradford
Sausagefest refers to a gathering with a large number of men. Refers to a certain appendage that men have and women don't.
I have been to an actual sausage festival here in Austin.
post #104 of 106
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Originally Posted by Kent Wang
I have been to an actual sausage festival here in Austin.

How was the gender balance? Any obsessive, introverted sausage junkies there?
post #105 of 106
As a kid I didn't much care if I was considered unattractive I made a wicked dungeon master and after 5-6 Coors and listening to the Offspring it didn't matter anyway. I don't think anyone plays AD&D after HS, possibly Frosh year in college, I don't know...
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